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Looking for my first spey rod. What would be suggested as a decent setup? I'd fish mostly in and Idaho with it. I've been looking a CND Expert, TFOs, but came across Sage's new Fli series. Also size is something i've been thinking about. 14' 9wt? or 13'6 8wt?


Reels?
Line?

Im trying to stay on the low end of the price spectrum.




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jon
 

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If you are in Idaho, look up MJC and the RedShed Flyshop. Great guy to do busuness with. Knows the area, so can give good advice on equipment suitable for the area. And,,,,,,,he has a pretty nice loaner / try before you buy program.
 

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Hey Jonny...

Some of the "jedi masters" have told me that if you can only have one spey rod the 14' is a good length. That is a good length for the Clearwater and the Salmon river around Riggins. I have sold both the 13' and 14' to guys that fish a lot on the Salmon river around Salmon, ID. For lots of time on the Ronde 14' is a little long but I believe it's workable.

I have some packages that might interest you both for the CND and the TFO rods and as JD says you can do the test drive plan so you can try them on the water. If you are interested send me a PM or an e-mail.

For reels the Tioga 12s are great and balance nicely on a 13' or 14' rod. If you are on a tight budget the Okuma Integrity 10/11LA works pretty good with the short belly lines. There are lots of great spey lines on the market. I like the Delta Longs or MidSpeys as a great first line.

As to the Sage rods you mention I'm not familiar with that model but Sage is known to have quality products. If they fit your budget they should be worth checking out. Sparky probably has the scoop on the Sages. If he is not off somewhere fishing maybe he will enlighten us.
Take care, MJC
 

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The three rod models you mentioned have very different actions, and the action of the rod should always figure in your choice because if you buy a rod with an action that is too fast and stiff, or too soft and full-flex for your preference, it will be less than enjoyable. As has been stated, the 14' 9wt is pretty analogous to a 9' 5 or 6 wt rod for trout. The 14' 9wt is a similar all-around length and weight for steelhead and salmon.

Of the three you mentioned, the CND Expert is the fullest flexing, the Sage is more moderate, mid-flexing, and the TFO is medium-fast and stiffer. The best way to make your choice without being able to actually cast the three rods you mentione is by starting with the type of rod action you like in single-hand rods. In other words, if you like softer, full-flexing rods, get the CND; if you like moderate, mid-flesing rods, get the Sage; and if you like medium-fast, stiffer rods, get the TFO. The reason for this is people usually like the same type of action in 2-hand rods they like in single-hand rods. Still the best way is to actually cast the rods you are interested in and then buy the one you like best.
 

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Jedi Masters

flytyer said:
The three rod models you mentioned have very different actions, and....Still the best way is to actually cast the rods you are interested in and then buy the one you like best.
The very best way is to try them on the water, with somone that is experienced with Spey rods and is able to show you how to cast, etc, etc.

That said, CND prrobably has a rod action to suit your style, if the pocket book can stand it. The actions are a little different as you progress from the Expert to the Custom to the Specialist series.......And then there are the Meiser rods.

MJC said:
if you can only have one spey rod.....
Only one? :whoa: Heaven forbid. Perish the thought. :lildevl:
 

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Hey JD...

Only one? Heaven forbid. Perish the thought.

A person has to start somewhere. I hope that you aren't getting so far along that you can't remember back to when you had just one. :lildevl:
 

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Only one?

MJC said:
A person has to start somewhere. I hope that you aren't getting so far along that you can't remember back to when you had just one.
Nawwww,,,,,just couldn't resist that one......uhhh
we are talking fly rods ,,,right,,,,not wives,,,,fly rods? :chuckle:
 

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Wives!

Who could afford more than one! The thought scares the hell out of me! I wouldn't be able to afford a wal-mart special and a gob of worms if there was another wife (present or former) lurking about. :whoa:
 

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Life is but a walking shadow. A poor player who struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more. It is a tale told by an idiot. Full of sound and fury!! Signifying nothing. Might as well go fishing!
Heeeey, I like that one. Except, I think, could be wrong here but I think, it should be "May as well go fishing"
Speaking of wives though, someone sent me this:
To impress a woman:

Wine her. Dine her. Call her. Hold her. Surprise her. Compliment her.
Smile at her. Listen to her. Laugh with her. Cry with her. Romance
her. Encourage her. Believe in her. Pray with her. Pray for her. Cuddle
with her. Shop with her. Give her jewelry. Buy her flowers. Hold her hand.
Write love letters to her. Go to the ends of the earth and back again for her.

To impress a man:

Show up naked. Bring chicken wings. Don't block the TV
 

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J.D. you are the man!

Rings true, but must change the chicken wings to pizza. And I only complain if she walks in front of the TV and is NOT naked!! Otherwise, well.....

You are correct in the correction with my quote as well, and it will be changed. Shakespeare deserves an addendum to one of his finest insights into human nature to be grammatically correct.

If Macbeth had only said "Screw it!" and gone fishing.
 

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MJC said:
If he is not off somewhere fishing maybe he will enlighten us.
I am just in between fishing trips so I will be able to answer that very question.

I have yet to see the new FLi Spey rod. I honestly do not think a single one has came out of production yet. I can however say that I have been very very impressed with the single-handed Fli's that have hit the market.

They are a nicely finished graphite III blank that perform on par, if not better then the VPS (RPL). They are quick but have a nice tip that will fish up close for 'ya, recover well and thus generate a ton of line speed. If the 14' #8 is as nice of a caster as the single-handers (obviously exhibiting different characteristics) then Sage could have a winner. :)
 

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Get in touch with Mike at the Red Shed Fly Shop (site sponsor) and you will be outfitted properly and experience service second to none. Your equipment will be capable of the finest casts and landing any steelhead that swims...ENJOY!
Chris
 
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