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I've been thinking of getting a Rio Accelerator line. Although I have never really liked long bellied lines, this line has always intrigued me. Is there a die hard following for this venerable spey line?
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I like the lines alot .... but their one failing ..
(for me anyway) is they're not a good line for cutting back/tossing tips. Also, I think the lines have all been pulled off the market and few, if any, would be available at retail.
But, if your hearts set on one, contact Simon at RIO to see if they have one left at the factory warehouse.
But back to the straight dry line configuration: You can cast a brick with these lines. I've got three or four of them and still use them consistently during for winter fishing.
(for me anyway) is they're not a good line for cutting back/tossing tips. Also, I think the lines have all been pulled off the market and few, if any, would be available at retail.
But, if your hearts set on one, contact Simon at RIO to see if they have one left at the factory warehouse.
But back to the straight dry line configuration: You can cast a brick with these lines. I've got three or four of them and still use them consistently during for winter fishing.
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The Dr. is right,
I still like the line, I will be using it tomorrow - with a serious tip. As long as you cut it just behind the hinge it will turn over a cable! I have never been sold on the hinge idea - often thinking of cutting it out - but it always seemed to work fine so I never got around to it.
I do however, tinker with the line configuration - I can't seem to help myself when it comes to customizing lines! I find this line sweet "out of the box for my venerable 9140-3 Sage, as well as for the (yup) Steelhead Specialist, but for bigger 10 wts. like my now seldom seen 10151 and my sweet Salar I add a 10' piece of level belly from a #10 DT to the loop behind the hinge (17' cutback) and it is the bomb .
I used to use the 10/11 Accellerator as the base line for my custom configuration for my 18' Bruce & Walkers - except I added two 15' pieces of #10 level belly. It cast like crazy (Beau can attest to it).
I think that the line is a great length and performs very well for dry line or tip work. The hinge is a little controversial - but IMO worked well - albeit resulting in a bit of a funny looking turn-over due to the "kick" - but still it turns over well - even with poly tips (except the type VI). It is a good line and were Rio still producing them I would eventually buy more, I have 2 at the moment that I haven't worn out yet. They are still available as old stock, if you look around you can find some and I would definitely recommend them.
I still like the line, I will be using it tomorrow - with a serious tip. As long as you cut it just behind the hinge it will turn over a cable! I have never been sold on the hinge idea - often thinking of cutting it out - but it always seemed to work fine so I never got around to it.
I do however, tinker with the line configuration - I can't seem to help myself when it comes to customizing lines! I find this line sweet "out of the box for my venerable 9140-3 Sage, as well as for the (yup) Steelhead Specialist, but for bigger 10 wts. like my now seldom seen 10151 and my sweet Salar I add a 10' piece of level belly from a #10 DT to the loop behind the hinge (17' cutback) and it is the bomb .
I used to use the 10/11 Accellerator as the base line for my custom configuration for my 18' Bruce & Walkers - except I added two 15' pieces of #10 level belly. It cast like crazy (Beau can attest to it).
I think that the line is a great length and performs very well for dry line or tip work. The hinge is a little controversial - but IMO worked well - albeit resulting in a bit of a funny looking turn-over due to the "kick" - but still it turns over well - even with poly tips (except the type VI). It is a good line and were Rio still producing them I would eventually buy more, I have 2 at the moment that I haven't worn out yet. They are still available as old stock, if you look around you can find some and I would definitely recommend them.
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An SA Mastery Spey is pretty close to the Accelerator, around 3 feet shorter in length without the hinge, which folks either liked or hated. I liked the hinge personally.
You can probably find an accelerator for cheaper, but the mastery spey is more conventional in nature, and casts great.
You can probably find an accelerator for cheaper, but the mastery spey is more conventional in nature, and casts great.
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Great Response!
You gotta love tackle junkies. Men [I suppose] after my own heart. I came across that old ad by Rio. You know the one, a distant photo of a huge cast and the loop is about unroll. The hinge is the intrigueing part of that line. The next question I have is should I buy it for the fast 10 wieght rod or the softer 9140-4?
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PS: Philster I have the mastery spey, the mint green one
You gotta love tackle junkies. Men [I suppose] after my own heart. I came across that old ad by Rio. You know the one, a distant photo of a huge cast and the loop is about unroll. The hinge is the intrigueing part of that line. The next question I have is should I buy it for the fast 10 wieght rod or the softer 9140-4?
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PS: Philster I have the mastery spey, the mint green one
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Sort of like how Kush refers to the Steelhead Specialist as a rod for all lines, I like to think of the 8/9 Accelerator as a line for all rods.
I can not tell you how many rods from 7 to 10#'s I have strung this line up with and found the line to be a great fit for that particular rod.
I love this line as it throws heavy tips and big flies very well but is still a pleasure to fish just as a straight floater.
I can not tell you how many rods from 7 to 10#'s I have strung this line up with and found the line to be a great fit for that particular rod.
I love this line as it throws heavy tips and big flies very well but is still a pleasure to fish just as a straight floater.
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Did I say" Junkies?" I meant ... distinguished sportsmen with discerning taste in tackle.
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To quote Ted Knight in Cady Shack "Well... We're Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaiting!" Do you like the line? There is a difference in feel, but mostly you'll still be picking up the same length and weight of line (if you get the right accelerator). There will be very little difference if using it for tips. Oh yeah. Apply IMHO to all the aboveNorth Island said:
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Philster, you gave me a good laugh.
It has been a long time since I cast that line. The last time was on a rod that I eventually sold. No names mentioned but I really did not like this rod, it cast like an oversized single hander,that had absolutely no power in the tip for the pick up. I do remember that rod casting the 'mastery spey' better than a 'mid spey w/ tips'. So I think I do like it. I will go cast it this afternoon.
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It has been a long time since I cast that line. The last time was on a rod that I eventually sold. No names mentioned but I really did not like this rod, it cast like an oversized single hander,that had absolutely no power in the tip for the pick up. I do remember that rod casting the 'mastery spey' better than a 'mid spey w/ tips'. So I think I do like it. I will go cast it this afternoon.
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One thing Dana pointed out to me (and he was dead on) about the Mastery Spey is that long back taper. If it's not pulled into the guides it can really mess you up because it's so long you can't throw the line with any overhang. If I were to weigh the head for rod loading purposes I would omit the back taper. Yet the grain weight for shooting the line is a little higher, and the grain weight of that back taper inside the guides influences the rod tip while working the line is as well.
In other words, strip the back taper into the guides instead of trying to throw the line with the whole head out there like almost all other spey lines.
Bruce Richards would be the best to contact about specific grain weights.
In other words, strip the back taper into the guides instead of trying to throw the line with the whole head out there like almost all other spey lines.
Bruce Richards would be the best to contact about specific grain weights.
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Juro,
Your last comment makes sense of this afternoons experience. On the way out the door I had a quick look at the back of the box, just to get an idea of the lines profile. I found the line to cast best [longest] with the line stripped in so I had the back taper in my fingers. However I could not consistantly get the line to turn over the heavily weighted fly.
All in all I enjoyed casting the line. [ sage 9140]
I think I will look for an accelerator for my 15ft. 9/10 Still liking the hinge idea.
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Your last comment makes sense of this afternoons experience. On the way out the door I had a quick look at the back of the box, just to get an idea of the lines profile. I found the line to cast best [longest] with the line stripped in so I had the back taper in my fingers. However I could not consistantly get the line to turn over the heavily weighted fly.
All in all I enjoyed casting the line. [ sage 9140]
I think I will look for an accelerator for my 15ft. 9/10 Still liking the hinge idea.
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Juro, I have the same experience with the grandspey 7/8 on my Derek Brown Favorite 8/9. Leave the whole belly out and you get sloppy big ass loops. Bring in 2 feet of back taper into the guides and things change dramatically. Hold the color change in your hand and you are suddenly in absolute and total control of loop size. On my Alltmor S, a little overhang is irrelevant with the 7/8 grandspey. Of course it's a 10/11 english style rod and it wants about 300 more grains and a slow motion casting stroke :chuckle:juro said:
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