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7141 epoxy separation

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Hi all,
First time post.
I have a question about this rod and/or spey rods in general. I've been casting a 7141 since March 02, mainly for Deschutes summer fish. I've noticed that the epoxy on several of the guide wraps, especially the larger guides, that the epoxy has begun to separate from the rod. The guides are not loose but pressing on the epoxy you can tell that there is some separation. I know that the guide feet are large and that spey rods flex a tremendous amount. Has anyone else noticed this phenomenon? Will it damage the rod in any way? I'd appreciate any input, thoughts, recommendations.
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I dont know whether it will lead to any damage but why take a chance? For what you have to pay for one of those puppies, send it back to Sage as soon as the season is over and let them worry about it. Better to take care of it now before it becomes a reral problem, because when it does, it will be at the worst possible moment. (Murphy's law #1):devil:
Did you use full floating line when fishing the Deschutes? Or did you use sinking tips? If yes, which tips, and how do you rate the rod with fastest sinking tips?
Hi Omykiss,
I have never noticed this phenomenon, but I would send it back to Sage as soon asap, it could damage the blank in my opinion. And why take chances, it will be handled under guarantee without a doubt. These rods are suppose dto bend, and the epoxy should be able to handle this.
Hans, Holland.

hey Omykiss--

Slainthe is absolutely correct - get that rod back to SAGE immediately. In fact I wouldn't wait until the end of the season - I'd do it now, especially if you have a back-up. SAGE has one of the best return policies out there and when you pay the obscene retail prices they ask, that type of bullet-proof return policy is part of the retail calculation - use it!.

I built a 7141 from a blank. I always underwrap each guide placement prior to putting on the guides to protect the finish from precisely the problem you mentioned you are having. It doubles the work but I have found it to be worth the extra effort.

These high modulus blanks are somewhat delicate, not quite as bullet proof or robust as we'd like to think, especially taking into consideration the fact that the foot of each guide is shaped on a grinder so as to make a low flattened profile under the thread.

But this grinding also makes the feet of the guides sharp as razor blades-- not something you would want working back and forth on the rod finish, especially that lovely SAGE green rod finish!
In case you need it -- Sage contact number = 1 800 533 3004 Good luck!
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You might also check to see if it is the build quality. I got a new 10151 and the quality around the guides is pathetic for the price. It almost looks like the resin was to thick when originally applied, you know like a car built on a Friday afternoon before a long weekend, the morning after Detroit won a championship.

If you can press on the wraps and they can be depressed I would send it back asap. I will concure Sages Warrantee department.

BTW, I haven't cast the 10151 much but it is still in 4pcs.
Thanks for all your advice guys. I will send it back to Sage ASAP. It does look like there is a little too much epoxy around the guide feet where the guide meets the wrap.

I've mainly using a floating Rio WC and have used the sinktips a few times, usually the type VI. Casting tips was a prerequisite for my spey rod purchase and from my limited experience it seems to cast tips fairly well. The rod has some backbone and the Euro action suits my casting style. I hope this helps.
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