Bob and Gary have their shops about/less than 20 minutes drive apart and are solid friends.If you don't find a used one that rings your bell I can highly recommend the Anderson NOVA 1215. I just got mine and can't put it down. Easiest to cast spey rod I've ever used. Huge grain window (in a relative sense), scandi to 80'+, skagit with 13' of Zink 9 and cone head streamers - not problem. These are fantastic little rods, right there with the best of the best.