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I will be in Gaspe the last week of June. I will have a Sage X 8140 rigged with a 3D F/H/I and I was hoping to also rig a 8126-4 sage one for scenarios when I will be fishing from a boat. I was contemplating a 3D line for it, but since it is a 12' 6" rod, it seems the RIO head of 38 feet may be too much for that rod. I Typically run an Airflo Scandi compact at 510gr (34' head) with a 10' floating or intermediate polyleader and 5' of fluorocarbon. I'm wondering if the 38' head on the RIO 3D line would be too much for this rod. I am a novice caster...

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If you are fishing from a canoe I have found that overhead casting with the long rod is easiest. If you are thinking about a 3D or 4D line, there are some available form Rio that are 23' heads and would be well suited for this application. The down side is that you are doing a lot of stripping, but you will not have to cast too far. These lines may be more of a skagit taper.
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If you are fishing from a canoe I have found that overhead casting with the long rod is easiest. If you are thinking about a 3D or 4D line, there are some available form Rio that are 23' heads and would be well suited for this application. The down side is that you are doing a lot of stripping, but you will not have to cast too far. These lines may be more of a skagit taper.
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Rio Scandi body is 23' long ( floater or Intermediate) , but after adding 10' tip ( 80 gr)for a shorter rod the entire set-up is a pretty good Scandinavian head. In this case 400 gr ( wt. 8) or 425 gr ( 8/9) body would be prefect, depending if the 8126-4 is a regular wt.8 rod or more of a heavier wt.8.

For example on CF Burkheimer 8128-4, 400 gr body + tip works nice , but 425 gr is fine too with a bit slower motion.
 

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Scientific Anglers UST Short are about 32ft at 400gr and heavier heads are bit longer. I have three UST and they seem to have biggest difference between rear and front half of mass produced lines so they are easy and efficient to Spey cast even using short leader but long leader make all Spey lines cast better.

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Scientific Anglers UST Short are about 32ft at 400gr and heavier heads are bit longer. I have three UST and they seem to have biggest difference between rear and front half of mass produced lines so they are easy and efficient to Spey cast even using short leader but long leader make all Spey lines cast better.

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Once 80 gr tip is attached to 400 gr Scandi Body the ratio between rear half and the front half is about 65-35% which is very good !!!.

Also Rio full heads F-H-I and H-I-S3 in 480 gr ( 35') , 585 gr ( 40') and 640 ( 40') gr all are in 65-35% range

While newer Guideline 3D heads have a lower ratio , the older, adjustable like F-H-I ( 9/10, 10/11 and 11/12 or F-I-S2 ( 10/11 and 11/12 only and H-S2-S4 in 9/10 to 11/12) all have about 65-35 % ration. Not so much with Older GL 3D H-I-S3
 

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Thanks for all the feedback. It looks like the scandi short versitip is the right call on this one. Not quite a 3D line, but a good option nonetheless
 

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Hello.. Not a 3D?? Buy the Versitip F/I head, attach a s2 tip and a s4 polyleader, bingo 4D line! Or the F/S3 head, s4 tip and a s5 polyleader, and.. You get the idea.. Yours borano20
 
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