13 ft 6/7 expert
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I have been using/practicing/suckycasting with this rod for about 6 months now. I had a 6/7 MidSpey and changed to a 5/6 Windcutter that works better (for me) on this rod. Caught sveral rainbows 3 to 4 pounds with it and it is a thrill, so I imagine it would work well for summer runs & dollys.
I've had this rod for about a month now, I put a XLT Mastery line on it in a 6/7 wt. I'm going to need help, being in Nebraska there isn't much in rivers around here so for now all I've got is the grass. Seem's that I can cast around 80 ft {stepped off} half the time and the other half the line with go out about 40ft and pile up. There aren't many good spey casters out here to go ask help from. I've seen the video's but I think I'm going to have to wait for the ice to leave the small stream { about 100 ft across } so I can get a good load on the rod. There are up to 10 lb trout in that stream so I can't wait. I really like the feel of the rod but can someone out there give some pointers about what I might be doing wrong. Sorry I interupted this thread.
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Try 6/7 midspey or the 7/8 midspey
Depends on how much you fish!
If your just starting go with the 7/8
Try 6/7 midspey or the 7/8 midspey
Depends on how much you fish!
If your just starting go with the 7/8
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I've spent my share of time with this little gem as well, and have come out with two lines that really shine so far and am anxious to try more as spring arrives. Unlike the rest of the Expert series or Customs and Specialists, this rod is quite gentle where the rest have a higher ratio of guts in reserve. I particularly like to use it to clean up my technique after throwing heavy rods and lines; think of the football player who does ballet to keep an element of grace in his game. :hehe:
Simon's 5/6 Windcutter is spot on for me on this rod, it loads the rod well yet lets the rod have a little authority over it and they get along real well.
Hardy's 8/9 Mach I Salmon line, even though it's rated 8/9, is a beautiful match for this rod as well. It brings out a very delicate balance to the rod's action.
coho48 - I would guess that the XLT 6/7 is significantly over-loaded for this rod, but will have to check the grains / head profile to venture more than a guess. You can see that the line ratings in spey casting are deceptive at best, instead look for grains over length of head to match with the rod.
The Windcutter 5/6 is only about 350 grains over 54 feet, and it works well for me on this rod.
You can also cast the 6/7 Midspey on this rod as Brian says which has 490 grains over 65 feet, but it will require that the lift and sweep to form the d-loop is super smooth, the rise at the end of the stop is adequate to keep a light anchor, and the shape of the d-loop fully extended on both halves, energized. Otherwise the weight and momentum of the line, if not well formed and directed into the same plane, can overcome this gentle trout rod.
The Custom 7/8 feels a touch beefier in the hands but has a deep reserve of power and is a true steelhead rod.
Simon's 5/6 Windcutter is spot on for me on this rod, it loads the rod well yet lets the rod have a little authority over it and they get along real well.
Hardy's 8/9 Mach I Salmon line, even though it's rated 8/9, is a beautiful match for this rod as well. It brings out a very delicate balance to the rod's action.
coho48 - I would guess that the XLT 6/7 is significantly over-loaded for this rod, but will have to check the grains / head profile to venture more than a guess. You can see that the line ratings in spey casting are deceptive at best, instead look for grains over length of head to match with the rod.
The Windcutter 5/6 is only about 350 grains over 54 feet, and it works well for me on this rod.
You can also cast the 6/7 Midspey on this rod as Brian says which has 490 grains over 65 feet, but it will require that the lift and sweep to form the d-loop is super smooth, the rise at the end of the stop is adequate to keep a light anchor, and the shape of the d-loop fully extended on both halves, energized. Otherwise the weight and momentum of the line, if not well formed and directed into the same plane, can overcome this gentle trout rod.
The Custom 7/8 feels a touch beefier in the hands but has a deep reserve of power and is a true steelhead rod.
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Sorry
Scottd,
I was thinking of the next rod up.
Last night was a late one.
Juro theman!
Scottd,
I was thinking of the next rod up.
Last night was a late one.
Juro theman!
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Windcutter 5/6...
...is a great line for this rod. I just got the Expert 6/7 about a week ago and it truly is a sweet casting rod with this line. It is a light rod and doesn't seem to like to be overpowered, but if you slow it down and concentrate on your form (which is about all I'm trying to do at this stage) the rod throws the Windcutter head out nicely and shoots a good bit of line as well. I am very glad to have it.
...is a great line for this rod. I just got the Expert 6/7 about a week ago and it truly is a sweet casting rod with this line. It is a light rod and doesn't seem to like to be overpowered, but if you slow it down and concentrate on your form (which is about all I'm trying to do at this stage) the rod throws the Windcutter head out nicely and shoots a good bit of line as well. I am very glad to have it.
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