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HARDY 11ft 'WYE’, LIGHT TWO HANDED 'PALAKONA' BAMBOO SALMON FLY ROD. [3 PIECES + SPARE MIRROR TIP.] ALL TOTALLY ORIGINAL.

THIS ROD NOW SOLD - MANY THANKS


This is a superb example of what we would call today a Switch Rod in bamboo, made by England’s foremost rod maker, Hardys, in Alnwick. It has all the usual writing intact and the labelled tag on the original bag.

The rod is in very good condition, but the silk at the ferrules shows signs of varnish separation, a very common problem with all bamboo rods. Other than that I can see no faults.
Other than that the maker’s bag is dirty, as is the cork grip.

The rod has the famous lockfast nickel silver ferrules; these are very well fitting both to the rod and to each other. The rod also has the well known sliding screw reel fitting which accommodates any size reel foot, along with the LRH butt finial…jewellery like fittings as copied by many other makers including Jim Payne. Have a close look at the photos and ask any questions you would like answered.

These rods were usually used with a DT7 line (as was this one). I do not have a lighter spey line than a 7/8 Delta….this seems a size heavy on this rod, so I imagine a 6/7 would be good.

You will probably know that these rods were a personal favourite of R. Haigh-Brown.

REEL, FLIES NOT INCLUDED!!!

UK brokers charge UK £300-£400 for these rods and a mint example can make £600.00.

This one would certainly be in the upper range, say £375.00 (US$560ish.)

Shipping incl. insurance will be US$50.00 upper limit to most of America – Alaska, remote Canada etc may be more!

I will sell this for US$ 375.00 or part trade for a nice Burkie 7/8 weight rod, of 13’ or more – longer the better, or perhaps a Burkie 15’ or more for a 10/11 line. 3 piece rods are perfectly acceptable. I am NOT interested in any other make or line weights.

REEL & FLIES NOT INCLUDED!!!!!
 

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and who said switch rods are recent development..?
 

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Hello..To my knowledge,the "Wye" rods were first included in the "Angler´s Guide" of 1917.Designed with the help of Mr Pashley,of Ross-on Wye.The 10´6" and 11´rods were singlehanded rods,12´6" and 13´6" of course doublehanded.Have also seen comments on a 15´rods,available during a couple of years during the 20`s.Mr Pashley had more than 10,000 salmon on his palmares.Me??Have a few left to match him.. Yours borano20
 

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Hello..To my knowledge,the "Wye" rods were first included in the "Angler´s Guide" of 1917.Designed with the help of Mr Pashley,of Ross-on Wye.The 10´6" and 11´rods were singlehanded rods,12´6" and 13´6" of course doublehanded.Have also seen comments on a 15´rods,available during a couple of years during the 20`s.Mr Pashley had more than 10,000 salmon on his palmares.Me??Have a few left to match him.. Yours borano20

Mr Pashley used the 11' as a summer rod and - due to physical handicap - fished almost always from a boat. The 12'6" is quite a nice rod, though - as with all Hardy bamboo rods - the quality was variable over such a long production period. Probably due to varying quality of raw bamboo over the years. I also had a 13'6" which was too heavy for it's line lifting capability.
Although the 11' was originally available as a single hand rod, the vast majority of the rods were in fact two hand rods, as is the one offered above.

The 11' is my favourite, though I have not tried American bamboo two handers under 12 feet other than a very soft 1917 built Hiram Hawes 11' (incl. 6" extension butt) which I used to own. [This Hawes - which was built for Karl Otto von Keinbusch - was part of a stolen consignment which I sent to a US based dealer - along with some Jim Payne and a Young Para 15 rods....the dealer never paid for them nor did he return them!!! Raising a legal action from the UK would be impossible for the monies involved. Nor can I publish the man's name as I am advised that he would without doubt launch a defamation case.:tsk_tsk: NASTY man.:saevilw:
 

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11'Hardy Wye

Tweedside, Is this a steel center rod/ the intermediate raps would point me to this direction but I could be wrong? do you know the year built or its weight and action which would also shed some light on its construction? Thanks Bamboo Fred
 

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Tweedside, Is this a steel center rod/ the intermediate raps would point me to this direction but I could be wrong? do you know the year built or its weight and action which would also shed some light on its construction? Thanks Bamboo Fred

Thanks,

No - it is most certainly not a steel centred rod...I once had a steel centred "Gold Medal" which broke and the "steel centre" proved to be no more than rust powder! Never buy one with a "steel centre"

The serial number equates to 1959, at which time Hardys were making better bamboo rods than they did in the late 1960s. [the following link gives the Hardy date codes:
<http://www.flyfishinghistory.com/hardy_rod_manufacturing_dates.htm>]

The rod weighs 12ozs on the kitchen scales and has an action which is soft by today's graphite standards, in truth one simply cannot compare actions of bamboo rods with their graphite counterparts. It is however deeply powerful and will control quite large Atlantic Salmon with authority, yet will not break fine leaders as will a graphite rod. I would like to think that whoever buys this rod will fish with it and learn the sweet response of such a rod and the joy of using it. Rather like the Sharpes spliced rods, it is an acquired taste but once experienced will be loved forever.:)
 

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The rod weighs 12ozs on the kitchen scales and has an action which is soft by today's graphite standards, in truth one simply cannot compare actions of bamboo rods with their graphite counterparts. It is however deeply powerful and will control quite large Atlantic Salmon with authority, yet will not break fine leaders as will a graphite rod. I would like to think that whoever buys this rod will fish with it and learn the sweet response of such a rod and the joy of using it. Rather like the Sharpes spliced rods, it is an acquired taste but once experienced will be loved forever.:)

My two cents: The Wyes are sweet rods to cast and fish with; I have just returned from fishing with the 12' 6" using a restored # 8/9 double taper 40 yard salmon silk line (might be a Hardy Corona) and the castability and fishing pleasure of the combo is remarkable.
As tweedside quoted they do not break tippets, allowing the fish to run and jump with the tip of the rod always managing the situation under control.
It is not easy for the fish to fight against bamboo tips, the tip easy follows (and nulifies) all its attemps.
No doubt the 11' Wye will be a delight rod for everyone interested in traditional fishing rods; just keep in mind to add a reel with the proper weight to balance the outfit, and enjoy the experience.
 

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My two cents: The Wyes are sweet rods to cast and fish with; I have just returned from fishing with the 12' 6" using a restored # 8/9 double taper 40 yard salmon silk line (might be a Hardy Corona) and the castability and fishing pleasure of the combo is remarkable.
As tweedside quoted they do not break tippets, allowing the fish to run and jump with the tip of the rod always managing the situation under control.
It is not easy for the fish to fight against bamboo tips, the tip easy follows (and nulifies) all its attemps.
No doubt the 11' Wye will be a delight rod for everyone interested in traditional fishing rods; just keep in mind to add a reel with the proper weight to balance the outfit, and enjoy the experience.
Pleased that you have had the thrill of fishing a Wye rod. Everything you say is as I found them to be. I have not used one with a silk line since the 1960s, but I agree that they are a joy - if in good condition. Virtually all of my light rod fishing is with a floating line and I can say that both the 11' & 12'6" handle floating lines beautifully. AS far as being gentle on leaders goes that is to me one of the real benefits of all bamboo rods. The best I ever had for this was also the slowest rod I ever owned, a 13' Leonard "Grilse" which threw a no 8 DT line all the way to the backing, but was as slow in doing so as I have ever known! A 11lb Atlantic only an hour out of the sea could be held after its first run and allowed to play the rod even in fast water on a 4.5lb tippet and a size 16 double!!!! That rod caught a lot of salmon - but was useless in a wind. It never lost a fish once hooked!
 

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Wye rod

Beautiful rod...in your photos it looks like a Saracione reel on the rod. If so then what size is it??? It seems like an 11'/12oz. rod would take a fairly heavy reel to achieve its balance point. A few words of enlightenment would be greatly appreciated....:Eyecrazy:


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Tom A.
 

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The reel is a 3.5" "Knock-off" Bogdan, machine shop made copy of a 150M weighing 11 oz approx. The only difference from the standard model (incl. its brakes) is that the end-plates are ventilated. It is an exceptionally good reel and holds the lighter spey lines easily with 30-45lb. braid backing. Being a multiplier (2:1) it also winds up line pretty quickly. I favour this type of reel - I feel that some of the modern large arbour reels are just too large and bulky. They can also look out of place on a bamboo rod. When I used thios rod regularly I used the little 3.5" Perfect which you will see at the back of my avatar....a 4" is too big and a 3.75" - in my view is the largest. A Marquis Salmon NO1/NO2 is also ideal.
 

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Very interested

I find the whole thing very intriguing. I have not fished a bamboo Spey rod before but love all things with a history and tradition.
My question is would this be a good first bamboo rod and what sort of floating line would you recommend?
Oh yes. Is the rod still available?
 

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This is light enough to be easy to manage all of the time and is in very good condition. As far as being a good rod to get the feel of bamboo it is perfect. Hardy Wye rods were certainly the most popular in their range between WW11 and the end of production.

I am not sure of the BEST line for it as that is always a personal choice, but I used these for years with a DT7F. [That was the last recommendation from Hardys though a silk line of similar weight was the earlier recommendation due to the non-availability of permanent floating lines.] They handle that superbly. I would not use it with any other line other than a short head spey....to use it with any of the specialist lines such as skagit and scandi or any shooting head is totally at odds with the tradition. Its rather like music - bach never sounded right on a Moog synthesiser, interesting maybe, but still not right!

Yes - it is still available as is a slight reduction in price to US$345.00 + shipping. Otherwise I will keep it along with the less than good 2 piece version which I also have.

Shoot me a PM/email if interested.
 

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This seems to have petered-out so I thought that I would give it a "Bump" - for the weekend!

Should have done so a few days ago so that she who loves you could have got it as a St Valantine's Day present, thereby prooving not only her love for you, but that she is quite happy for you to disappear for days on end whilst using it!!:hihi:
 

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No interest so it is going on the UK version of the great auction in the sky. This will be on Sunday evening, and the opening price will be approx. US$299.00 + shipping.

I have carefully washed the cork, so the above pics no longer apply regarding the cork.

I notice a similar, but 12'6" Wye at UK£338.00 with 3 hours to go. [approx. just in excess of US$500.00!!!!]

EDIT: 12 1/2' actually made $550+shipping.

Thanks for looking.
 

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Missed your listing - I was off in Mexico.
Looked for your listing on the UK 'site' but couldn't find it.
I am interested in the rod, especially at the 'reduced price' prior to your 'site' listing.
contact me at dnlock (at) shaw (dot) ca
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Thanks to the 1000+ views.

The rod is now sold and will shortly be in R. Haig-Brown Country!:smokin:

And thanks to the very positive buyer.
 
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