I have to leave town right now but will be back Sunday. Well figure out the return than. I'd keep it but I don't really have a rod for it. I was planning to chop a little of the short to make an opst style shooting head. Thanks, and sorry about the confusion on your end. I expect I won't be the only person to have been expecting the short line! No worries though it's not like there's not 500 dif skagit heads nowadays