I just went to ship the rod and someone at my work had put the 4 weight back in the 5 weight tube, so long story short, I only have the 10'4. I apologize for this, but let me know if you would be interested in the 4 or if I can refund your payment. I have fished both and I actually prefer the 4. I guide on the Bighorn river in MT, which is a good sized river and I have never felt under gunned with this rod. Please let me know!!