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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 12-27-2013, 06:25 PM Thread Starter
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More married wing progress

Had a lot of fun with this one. Woke up early with a few ideas kicking around in my head and just HAD to hit the vise. The peacock herl rib was the main thing I wanted to try again, since the last time I tried it things looked good but not quite right still. The Wood duck/JC combination cheeks were another thing that I thought would work well together but I'd never been able to get them to play very well together. Also wanted to play around some more with ostrich herl at the head, why I hadn't done more with that in the past eludes me.
I have always been a fan of these colors too; being born and raised in Eugene, Oregon green and gold go back a long way for me. Still some clean up work for sure. Especially need to thin the hackle a bit, and a bit cleaner work on the counter ribbing as my main body work kind of got obscured a bit more than intended. Still overall this was a highlight fly for me, and while the wing was by far the most difficult to get right the mounting of it went pretty smoothly. Hope you like.
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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 12-27-2013, 06:43 PM
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You're nailing it man, great job. Only thing I would say (and you said it already) is a little less hackle (are you stripping one side?).

Oh, and maybe that I prefer blue and orange

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I am, by far, not an expert, but you are improving with such impressive progress!

Each tie greatly exceeds the previous!

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Jason,

You are progressing quickly! Your work is absolutely stunning. I see a little wing slip on top. Hold a really firm grip while setting the wing. The thread pulls the fibers as you seat your loop. Someone point that out to me early on, and helped me a bunch.

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post #5 of 10 (permalink) Old 12-28-2013, 03:08 AM
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Your progress is great to see and you are progressing much more quickly than most folks who take up tying married wings. I'd say you are tying better than about 98% or a little more of all the fly tyers in the world alive today.
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Wow, Exciting progress! Since you are obviously learning fast and looking to get to the next level, here are some things i see:

Focus on matching up the married segment's tips a bit better in your next wing construction. This would boost the eye appeal of the fly to the next level. Also, this wing is a touch too chunky for my eye.

A contrasting colored shoulder in front of that hackle would also be worth considering.

Lastly, I'd like to see more of the JC. JC is so pretty but I hardly notice it in the dressing. I'd double the length of the JC and take the duck back even as far your herl. (and i think that duck is technically upside down, but check on it as im not sure.)

Overall you are coming along at mach speed. that finish work at the head is really nice. The compression on the wing looks good. its not easy to compress that many different marriages without a fold, good job!
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Are you messing with me? I am having a hard time believing this came from the same bench!! very nice, I think I am so found of this because I too am from OR and those colors mean a lot to me. Work out your couple kinks, blow up your photo and go slap it above the door at Autzen!! I will be stealing this though, I am making a package for my dad down in medford and he would freak to see these colors! thanks for sharing and I cannot wait to see where you are in a month or 2!!
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I think little bigger JC with this fly looks better my eyes !!
Nice colors ...good to go fishing !!
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Thanks for the support, and the kind words. I'm still absolutely looking to take my "masterpiece" ties several levels higher... eventually. I hardly ever put this much work or time into trying to perfect something quite so difficult, so given what it was I'm very pleased with what I did on this fly at this point in time.

Really appreciate all the constructive critique as well, in fact I particularly appreciate the critiques. I'm not always in full agreement with the standards or tastes put forth by others, but I am ALWAYS thankful to hear and receive them. If for no other reason than it gives me pause to consider, and weigh my own reasons for doing things a certain way.

By far the biggest issue for me with this fly was the hackle, but I was also not totally happy with the wing. The length was just a tad more than I wanted, and the tips were NOT cooperating well at all. At one point I remember thinking that I'd better just get this thing on that hook before I made it any worse! The mottled turkey feathers were a major problem to work with, and I'm realizing that I am in dire need of some better materials. The goose shoulder I have is ok for working with, and I have exactly 3 colors of dyed white turkey, but no good "earthy" looking stuff. What I have there is very tough to work with, and I'm now realizing just how much nicer certain materials can be for married wings.

I might give this a rest for a few until I get some more stuff... I have to finish up some flies for the swap still too.

Thank you all again, so much for the help and encouragement. I could not have come this far without it
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Very cool color combo!!!
Nicely tied!!
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