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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 12-26-2013, 12:04 PM Thread Starter
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another married wing

Starting to actually have some fun tying these. Far less curses on this one, other than in the photoshop phase trying to correct the color balance. Love tying, love taking photos, HATE photo processing (probably just because I suck at it). The wing colors look pretty true, but the hook is actually nickel in color and the tail is actually red, as opposed to red and yellow. At any rate I still like the look on this one:
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post #2 of 12 (permalink) Old 12-26-2013, 12:22 PM
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This is a great fly and you clearly demonstrate skills.

I'd like to make a recommendation - make the wing slightly longer and prior to tying it in, build up a level platform with thread in order to get it a little lower at the back.
The kick up is due to a small step down at the end of the hackle to the wing tie in point.

A very minor issue.

Like i said, great fly and well tied.

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Thanks Eunan,
Your SBS on mounting a married wing a while back was the original inspiration to try this, and the process you describe has been very helpful. To be honest, that wing was set a bit flatter/lower but I had crowded the eye a bit too much. My fix was to wrap back a few turns towards the body, thus pinching the wing upward a bit (also made it slightly shorter). Still my best wing so far, but lots more work still to do to get it down a bit better.

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Looks awesome Jason. It's clear by this fly that you are getting it down. This is my favorite married wing of yours yet.

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Like the shape of the whole fly, well done

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Looking nice your married wing fly.
I think tag little big size for this hook... try extra small oval tinsel but proportion looking great !!
Well done !!


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I think this fly is stunning! Nice done!

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You've got some neat colors and some decent tying going on there. Very cool. As an addition to the already good suggestions, maybe try shortening that throat hackle to half the body length of the fly...it might balance the proportions better. Love that silver pheasant hackle.

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Jason:

If we do it right, the pursuit of personal satisfaction is ever changing. As we get better, we raise our own bar. Meeting and conquering an old challenges and taking on new ones. Very fluid and never ending.

You've made leaps and strides. This dressing has a bit too much density south of the border (shank) and may skid or flop on the swing due to the naturally married webby hackle. Eunan addressed the issue of a wing that pole vaults.

You're on the right track my friend...your work tells me so

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You're doing great, Jason! Every one is getting better.

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Thank you all yet again for the kind compliments and feedback, and even more for your critiques. I absolutely love being in the steep part of a learning curve, no matter what the skill. I feel like I'm in the middle of one right now, and a lot of that is due to seeing what and how you guys are tying and the goals you're striving for. Really appreciate that.

One thing that was brought up was the throat hackle, which is particularly apparent in the photo as being perhaps a bit long and definately too thick and matted. I'm using dyed silver pheasant here, and it's a material that I both like the look of but that I also have trouble keeping it from mating itself into clumps. In addition to using probably one or two less wraps (I think I did 4 or 5), is there anything that helps when working with silver pheasant? Or would I have been simply better served by a different material? Or....???

As for the enlarged tag, I kind of meant for this tag to be a bit more pronounced to ensure that the pretty blue wire/silver tinsel wraps didn't end up obscured. In the end, the dubbing didn't really obscure it at all, and I probably would have been better off with just one less wrap (still keeping it a tad oversized I would guess).

The wing? At this point I'm still celebrating anytime the wing sits still and doesn't explode and crumple on me when I mount it!!! But of course, Dave is correct: the personal bar is slowly but steadily raising. Not a bad thing all in all.

Thanks again for all the help and feedback, I'm working on a good one right now and it's keeping my standards higher... I hope...
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You are definitely on the right track. Each fly is very noticeably improved over the last one. Regarding feeling great about a wing not blowing up, you are going to find it easier and easier to get the wing to set right without blowing up as you tie more. However, you also have found how great it feels when the wing stays together and doesn't blow up when you tie it in.

Alec Jackson, who is a great tyer in his own right, told me a good 18 years ago that he gave up on tying married wing back in the late-1970's when after several hours of coaching from Syd Glasso (who he became friends with after Syd retired and move to Seattle to be closer to his daughter), Alec thought he had finally gotten a wing to sit right without blowing up only to have Syd pick up the fly, pull slightly on the wing, and have the wing come out in his fingers. Alec told me he almost cried because he had spent at least 4 hours just trying to get a wing to stay together when he tied it in.

Alec told me that was the last time he attempted a married wing because it was too hard for him to spend all that time only to have the wing come apart.
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