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Putting my lucky jay feather find to good use. Thanks for looking.

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Ditto. Never relized how awesome your guys flies were till I tried to duplicate them.
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I really like that one!
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Putting my lucky jay feather find to good use. Thanks for looking.
You may not think your feather is so luck if the fish and wildlife service decide to prosecute you. You have given them plenty of evidence of an illegal activity. You even went so far as to state that you were aware of the law that protects blue jay in another post. The treaty applies to Canada too.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Migrato...ty_Act_of_1918
http://www.fws.gov/migratorybirds/Re...mbtandx.html#a

This is my first post on this forum but if this is the kind of activity goes on this forum on a regular basis and is condoned it will be my last.

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quick change your name and move to Sweden!
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quick change your name and move to Sweden!
Or come fast to argentina (don't forget to bring all your tying materials with you)
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Or come fast to argentina (don't forget to bring all your tying materials with you)
Especially the jay feathers
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Let me start by saying it was not my intention to "ruffle up anyone's feathers" with my jay posts. Time is better spent elsewhere then to start arguments. Especially here in this forum. Some animals are protected for good reason & we should abide.
I will say though, that some jay populations may or may not be migratory. We have seen the same jays at our feeders for years. All seasons. Do these birds fall under The Act? Only a ornithologist knows that answer.
As for fish & game, I am sure they have bigger issues with poachers that they should spend their efforts on. At least I hope.
Maybe I should have dug a little deeper in my research about jays before I posted. This can be a lesson.
I hope my post does not hinder you from posting here. I am sure a boo maker has lots of info that we can all benefit from like your first post.

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Just a few years ago I was at a local hatchery run and operated by my local F&G, while on the tour I was picking up all these feathers I was finding and had no clue what they were. I asked the guide what they were and he informed me that they were Great Blue Heron feathers. I ended up leaving the place with 2 large ziplok bags full of them that day. I have posted many flies with those feathers on them on other forums and have tied at local outings with F&G right there and have never been charged with possessing these feathers. Just my two cents. Beautiful looking flies hitcher keep them coming-Matt-
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Not to argue but just to share my thoughts: Isn't it a bit odd that some species are "protected" but then you see their feathers being sold at some renown flyshop?

I don't know out there, cannot cut every fabric with the same scissors, but here it never been strange to find that most animal protecting laws are not protecting the species but the private companies that raise them for commercial use. I always say: when you burn yourself with milk you see a cow and cray.

What is true, though, is that it is quite a shame how some pecies are decimated because of their "commercial value" and i find it excellent that the countries take action and rule about them, but then it happens sometimes that some species then has commercial hunting seasons but are prohibited all year for non-commercial hunters... if they are in risk then forbid the commercial hunt and not the "amateur" (for the lack of a better word in my vocabulary) hunting. I don't know, it is just not logic at all. A nice example of that is the hare's hunting in my area, it is closed for amateur hunting all year but opens 3 months a year for commercial hunters, just crazy... isn't it? (and better don't tell you about deer heh)

On one hand i'm sorry the thread got to this direction, but on the other hand im glad because it gives us the chance to know and compare the different policies in different parts of the world regarding protected and supposedly prtected species.
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