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Marty's Intruder

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#1 ·
A single station Intruder per Ed's clarification. Boy I am glad we have that straight now.

 
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I have to agree with jamie... put a two color tail and it may be a perfect burgin bugger (great fly btw)

nevertheless, it looks amazingly well tied, as always marty :)

Rob
 
#7 ·
Big buggers on TMC 9395's-very similar to what you have tied was a staple steelhead fly of mine for yrs.

Black n chart and orange n gold are HOT for skammies in MI. waters......

Truderish? not in my books. Buggerish?--oh ya--n they work too!
 
#8 ·
It's a Bugger, right?

Marty,

I'm obviously out of the loop on this fly because that looks like the stuff we were hurling at GL salmon back in the 80's. The style is a fish catcher and the tying is good but I don't make them anymore. They work but I just don't use them. I like your fancy tying better :)
 
#11 · (Edited)
This may have appeared to come across as a joke and I hope I haven’t caused any ill feelings, it was not my intent. After Ed posted his comment on the “Intruder” it really got me thinking and I walked away even more confused as I am sure the majority of the tyer’s on this site did. Ed states “keep in mind the Intruder isn’t just “my” fly. What fly would be my question, is there a recipe. I know there is a fly in Dec’s book called the Intruder and that it was tied by Ed. Was that the results of the so called collaboration of efforts. Why is there not an official definition on the book. As for a descriptor for a general “style” of tie, how does that work. From what I am reading “Intruder” is the use of an “under collar” that props up a larger material. So you could say the use of a metal cone is intruder style. To say any material that is propped is intruder style is a little out there as well. I have seen all kinds of flies posted on this site named as Intruder that have nothing to do with even Ed’s description of what an intruders is. Not sure where all of this got so disconnected but it is easy to see how it can. The Spey fly is a perfect example. Some think if the fly has long flowing hackles it’s a Spey fly and even a number of the so called pros have added to the confusion by referring to nontraditional flies as Spey flies. Dec Hogan was propping up marabou with bands of chenille years before the first Intruder, so would that make his marabou fly and Intruder, don’t think so. A Sandy River Prawn has material propped up by reversed arctic fox, is it an Intruder or even Intruder style, would not say so. I would have to say the guess work that has gone into the hundreds of so called Intruders seen here and there is a big part of the confusion. I have not seen Ed’s DVD so I can’t say if the instruction on how to tie an Intruder is clearly presented but the tying instructions are very clear in Dec’s book. To me Ed’s Intruder is a style (his style) of tying. For a fly to be called an Intruder it must follow Ed’s style. It can be tied with any type and color of material but it must be tied in a way as to reproduce the originators fly. Why is this important, comes down to simple communication. If some tells me they are fishing a green butt skunk I pretty much know what they are fishing, same would not work if they said they were fishing an orange and black Intruder. The wooly bugger above is the perfect example. If I said I was fishing an olive crystal bugger would that fly not come to mind? Just looking for a little accuracy.
 
#13 · (Edited by Moderator)
Why is this important, comes down to simple communication. If some tells me they are fishing a green butt skunk I pretty much know what they are fishing, same would not work if they said they were fishing an orange and black Intruder. The wooly bugger above is the perfect example. If I said I was fishing an olive crystal bugger would that fly not come to mind? Just looking for a little accuracy.
....I have no problem with this at all, if someone tells me they are fishing an intruder,no matter what colour, I know exactly what style of fly I would expect to see...this style is pretty distinct in look and profile...from thicker material ties to....the way I like to tie 'em......very sparse and gangly...tied on some kind of shank, either store bought, or home made.When someone says "intruder"...you know basically what you are going to see...no mystery there.

Cheers,Wild Bill.:smokin:
 
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