After seeing Marty's recent post on the importance of keeping the history and original tier of fly patterns straight I thought this was in order. Please read the entire post before you comment on it.
Some may be aware of the history of the foam lipped twitched fly as used for steelhead, some may not. The following is the history of the foam lipped dry fly from it's humble and covert beginnings on the North Umpqua where it was first used successfully.
I am open to any comments about these origins and would love to discuss any claims by anyone that say's they were fishing a FOAM fly like this with a twitched or chugged presentation before we were. My intention here is to give credit where it is due and refresh some memories about what really went on with this fly and dry fly fishing style.
I am tired of defending this but also tire of seeing relative newcomers( and there are many) bull dog their way into the fly world claiming ownership of something I saw firsthand. Maybe this can set the record straight a little for posterity sake. Hopefully this will be the last time and at least I wrote it all down for reference.
Here ya go:
The real origin of the Deer Hair Foam skater, the technique to fish it and how it all came about:
The history of the fly, it's origin and the technique developed to fish it start way back in the mid to late 80's. It was a multi step process to get to the fly that we call the Foam Dome. There were a few of us involved in the further development of the fly as well as what became the technique to fish it.
I will not show a picture of the fly as there is still nothing quite like it in the mass market place today. Tony's original design is still the best IMHO, and easiest to tie and cast of any of the scores of copies out there. I respect Tony and his decision NOT to mass market the fly.
The history on the fly and its metamorphosis is as follows:
We often fished muddlers and riffle hitched them, dead drifted them etc. We started to tie muddlers with a flat bottom and we would aqua seal them to get a flared flat surface that would skate well. We even bent the hook shank upwards to increase the angle and make them surf and skate even better. We fished these flies for a few years and they worked great, the fish loved them! We also came up with a disk shaped fly out of deer hair that was quite effective.
One day in around 88 or 89 Tony Wratney(legendary NU guide) was looking at the deer hair muddler fly in the vise and got the idea to add foam to it. He said " I'm going to Joe's(Howell) to get some foam and I'm gonna tweak this pattern. He went to Joe's and got some bright foam and brought it home. He sat at the vise and produced the first deer hair foam lip skater. We tried some names out, I thought of Nerf Surfer because the foam was the color of a nerf football. I always liked that name but it never stuck, but Foam Dome did. We fished it and it produced almost immediately. We skated it normally without the twitch at first. It was a cool looking fly.We now had a virtually unsinkable fly that was highly visible that could be fished in heavy water. It was a winner.We had a killer fly that was working well but we had no idea how much more effective it would become with the development of the" Twitch"
Now to the origin of the twitch and how we developed it into a dry fly technique. Another friend Tim Caine (another amazing fisherman) was fishing one day to 4 or five fish in a favorite run. He swung a wet fly through and put it in front of every fish in the pool. No dice they were not interested. So he is standing there just screwing around and he starts to swing through the run again. He starts bouncing his rod, moving the fly, twitching the fly as it comes across the pool. A fish moves up and eats it almost instantly with this new movement. I think he ended up moving a fish or two after they had just refused the same fly on a normal swing. The movement really got their attention.That started the ball rolling to try the same thing with the newly invented Foam Dome. We all started to fish the new fly with movement......and it worked amazingly well. It took a while to figure out a consistent rhythm without moving the fly to much. We all fished it and compared notes on what worked best in what circumstance. Everyone developed their own rhythm and did it a little different. As time went on we figured out that a bigger lip pushed more water and made more commotion. The fly changed many times. Bigger, smaller ,sparse, bushy etc. Different sizes for different runs. Heavy water, glassy tails we had a bug for all of it. the fish loved them. We had no trouble following people through runs because fish would just clobber this thing. It was new, the fish went nuts for them. They had never seen such a thing before. The fly is still changing to this day some 20 years later.
Now, everyone KNOWS that people have been putting movement on the fly since time began. Done for Atlantic salmon on the East coast and Europe and people have been twitching wet flies on the west coast forever.Nothing new there.Bill Mcmillian was doing it with dries and wrote about it in Dry Line Steelhead (although not done with a foam fly and not done with the same movement we discovered).I am not claiming that movement on the fly was our idea. It wasn't only the movement/twitch that made this fly work, it was the mechanics/shape and design of this fly.This new foam lipped deer hair fly pushed water like a bass popper. That, coupled with a rhythmic, pulsing, metronome twitch was revolutionary to the steelhead world. We kept it under our hat. We didn't talk about it. It was our technique. I truly believe, and to the best of my knowledge we were the only people around that were consistently catching steelhead on deliberately chugged and twitched foam skaters.Those in our group were well traveled in the steelhead community and it's rivers and to our knowledge there was no one in the steelhead world that was doing this with a spun deer hair foam fly. Like I said, I am open to any discussions with anyone that has any earlier claims to this. Please comment.
For years we fished this way. It worked amazingly well for us. There were a half dozen of us that were doing it, the inner circle if you will.However, the public as a whole, even upon seeing what we were doing did not know what we were doing it WITH.They remained skeptical. and people would even ask what the heck we were doing and scoff. No one really thought you could get them on top like this,twitching and all. No one wanted to spend the time trying this new technique even when they saw us catch fish. It was too radical, too "outside of the box" to steal a phrase,for the masses. We had confidence in it but no one else was convinced it would work.People actually laughed at us and made jokes about us. "There's those guys with the epileptic twitch" "That will never work:, "You'll scare the fish" "That is the stupidest thing I have ever seen" we heard it all. We didn't care, we were breaking new ground and the fish were on it big time!
In fact, to further illustrate the fact that no one was doing it or had even heard of it, Tony took a handful of the new flies up to BC to fish in the early 90's. He was fishing on the Kispiox with guys like Bob Clay and Wolford and Tom Lee. Giants in the steelhead fly fishing world, in the heart of the very origins of steelhead fishing on the fly and they had never seen or heard of a fly or technique like this. He was with Bob Clay when he first pulled out the Foam Dome and Bob was skeptical at best. He would only let him fish it every other pool that's how skeptical he was.When Tony was allowed to fish it he cast it out and it started to swing and then he started in with the pulsing, rhythmic twitch and Bob said" Don"t do that, it won't work, it will scare the fish!!!" Tony kept on chugging and rose a huge fish. Bob's eyes raised...."Hum, that was cool" Shortly after that session with Bob,there was a guide newsletter that came out where Bob reports that he and some fellow guides went out twitching skaters and hooked 23 fish.The guides were convinced and were sold! They then came up with their own versions and the fame of the fly and technique started to spread.
Word of this fly and technique soon started to make the rounds in the steelhead world.The Deschutes is where I think I saw the first commercial versions of someone else's foam skater. Several well known guides started to tie some similar flies and you started to see them showing up in the fly bins maybe in around the early 2000's. Tony also fished with Ken Morrish during those early years and he saw the foam fly and later we saw patterns like the Morrish mouse emerged as well as his more recent Pom Skater. I would think it would be hard for Ken to deny that he was influenced by Tony's fly.
As I said,we started fishing this fly and technique on the North Umpqua in around 88 or 89. We actually were using single-handed rods to fish these things.......anyone remember what one of those things look like? We still fish them often and it is still one of my favorite ways to fish a skater.
Anyway,15 years later(that's a long time folks) in about 03-04 ,Scott showed up and started guiding out of Steamboat Inn. He immediately saw what we were doing and took notes. He is a very savvy angler no doubt.He watched how and where we fished it. He however did not start fishing it right away. Eventually he started guiding more and converting to the twitched dry as well. I even remember when we first saw him twitching a dry in the Station. I was with Tony and we were like "Hey, he's stealing our technique" We had no idea what would happen over the next few years.
He then developed a similar fly which would become the Ska-opper that is now everywhere.The rest as they say is history.
Just trying to set it straight.
Some may be aware of the history of the foam lipped twitched fly as used for steelhead, some may not. The following is the history of the foam lipped dry fly from it's humble and covert beginnings on the North Umpqua where it was first used successfully.
I am open to any comments about these origins and would love to discuss any claims by anyone that say's they were fishing a FOAM fly like this with a twitched or chugged presentation before we were. My intention here is to give credit where it is due and refresh some memories about what really went on with this fly and dry fly fishing style.
I am tired of defending this but also tire of seeing relative newcomers( and there are many) bull dog their way into the fly world claiming ownership of something I saw firsthand. Maybe this can set the record straight a little for posterity sake. Hopefully this will be the last time and at least I wrote it all down for reference.
Here ya go:
The real origin of the Deer Hair Foam skater, the technique to fish it and how it all came about:
The history of the fly, it's origin and the technique developed to fish it start way back in the mid to late 80's. It was a multi step process to get to the fly that we call the Foam Dome. There were a few of us involved in the further development of the fly as well as what became the technique to fish it.
I will not show a picture of the fly as there is still nothing quite like it in the mass market place today. Tony's original design is still the best IMHO, and easiest to tie and cast of any of the scores of copies out there. I respect Tony and his decision NOT to mass market the fly.
The history on the fly and its metamorphosis is as follows:
We often fished muddlers and riffle hitched them, dead drifted them etc. We started to tie muddlers with a flat bottom and we would aqua seal them to get a flared flat surface that would skate well. We even bent the hook shank upwards to increase the angle and make them surf and skate even better. We fished these flies for a few years and they worked great, the fish loved them! We also came up with a disk shaped fly out of deer hair that was quite effective.
One day in around 88 or 89 Tony Wratney(legendary NU guide) was looking at the deer hair muddler fly in the vise and got the idea to add foam to it. He said " I'm going to Joe's(Howell) to get some foam and I'm gonna tweak this pattern. He went to Joe's and got some bright foam and brought it home. He sat at the vise and produced the first deer hair foam lip skater. We tried some names out, I thought of Nerf Surfer because the foam was the color of a nerf football. I always liked that name but it never stuck, but Foam Dome did. We fished it and it produced almost immediately. We skated it normally without the twitch at first. It was a cool looking fly.We now had a virtually unsinkable fly that was highly visible that could be fished in heavy water. It was a winner.We had a killer fly that was working well but we had no idea how much more effective it would become with the development of the" Twitch"
Now to the origin of the twitch and how we developed it into a dry fly technique. Another friend Tim Caine (another amazing fisherman) was fishing one day to 4 or five fish in a favorite run. He swung a wet fly through and put it in front of every fish in the pool. No dice they were not interested. So he is standing there just screwing around and he starts to swing through the run again. He starts bouncing his rod, moving the fly, twitching the fly as it comes across the pool. A fish moves up and eats it almost instantly with this new movement. I think he ended up moving a fish or two after they had just refused the same fly on a normal swing. The movement really got their attention.That started the ball rolling to try the same thing with the newly invented Foam Dome. We all started to fish the new fly with movement......and it worked amazingly well. It took a while to figure out a consistent rhythm without moving the fly to much. We all fished it and compared notes on what worked best in what circumstance. Everyone developed their own rhythm and did it a little different. As time went on we figured out that a bigger lip pushed more water and made more commotion. The fly changed many times. Bigger, smaller ,sparse, bushy etc. Different sizes for different runs. Heavy water, glassy tails we had a bug for all of it. the fish loved them. We had no trouble following people through runs because fish would just clobber this thing. It was new, the fish went nuts for them. They had never seen such a thing before. The fly is still changing to this day some 20 years later.
Now, everyone KNOWS that people have been putting movement on the fly since time began. Done for Atlantic salmon on the East coast and Europe and people have been twitching wet flies on the west coast forever.Nothing new there.Bill Mcmillian was doing it with dries and wrote about it in Dry Line Steelhead (although not done with a foam fly and not done with the same movement we discovered).I am not claiming that movement on the fly was our idea. It wasn't only the movement/twitch that made this fly work, it was the mechanics/shape and design of this fly.This new foam lipped deer hair fly pushed water like a bass popper. That, coupled with a rhythmic, pulsing, metronome twitch was revolutionary to the steelhead world. We kept it under our hat. We didn't talk about it. It was our technique. I truly believe, and to the best of my knowledge we were the only people around that were consistently catching steelhead on deliberately chugged and twitched foam skaters.Those in our group were well traveled in the steelhead community and it's rivers and to our knowledge there was no one in the steelhead world that was doing this with a spun deer hair foam fly. Like I said, I am open to any discussions with anyone that has any earlier claims to this. Please comment.
For years we fished this way. It worked amazingly well for us. There were a half dozen of us that were doing it, the inner circle if you will.However, the public as a whole, even upon seeing what we were doing did not know what we were doing it WITH.They remained skeptical. and people would even ask what the heck we were doing and scoff. No one really thought you could get them on top like this,twitching and all. No one wanted to spend the time trying this new technique even when they saw us catch fish. It was too radical, too "outside of the box" to steal a phrase,for the masses. We had confidence in it but no one else was convinced it would work.People actually laughed at us and made jokes about us. "There's those guys with the epileptic twitch" "That will never work:, "You'll scare the fish" "That is the stupidest thing I have ever seen" we heard it all. We didn't care, we were breaking new ground and the fish were on it big time!
In fact, to further illustrate the fact that no one was doing it or had even heard of it, Tony took a handful of the new flies up to BC to fish in the early 90's. He was fishing on the Kispiox with guys like Bob Clay and Wolford and Tom Lee. Giants in the steelhead fly fishing world, in the heart of the very origins of steelhead fishing on the fly and they had never seen or heard of a fly or technique like this. He was with Bob Clay when he first pulled out the Foam Dome and Bob was skeptical at best. He would only let him fish it every other pool that's how skeptical he was.When Tony was allowed to fish it he cast it out and it started to swing and then he started in with the pulsing, rhythmic twitch and Bob said" Don"t do that, it won't work, it will scare the fish!!!" Tony kept on chugging and rose a huge fish. Bob's eyes raised...."Hum, that was cool" Shortly after that session with Bob,there was a guide newsletter that came out where Bob reports that he and some fellow guides went out twitching skaters and hooked 23 fish.The guides were convinced and were sold! They then came up with their own versions and the fame of the fly and technique started to spread.
Word of this fly and technique soon started to make the rounds in the steelhead world.The Deschutes is where I think I saw the first commercial versions of someone else's foam skater. Several well known guides started to tie some similar flies and you started to see them showing up in the fly bins maybe in around the early 2000's. Tony also fished with Ken Morrish during those early years and he saw the foam fly and later we saw patterns like the Morrish mouse emerged as well as his more recent Pom Skater. I would think it would be hard for Ken to deny that he was influenced by Tony's fly.
As I said,we started fishing this fly and technique on the North Umpqua in around 88 or 89. We actually were using single-handed rods to fish these things.......anyone remember what one of those things look like? We still fish them often and it is still one of my favorite ways to fish a skater.
Anyway,15 years later(that's a long time folks) in about 03-04 ,Scott showed up and started guiding out of Steamboat Inn. He immediately saw what we were doing and took notes. He is a very savvy angler no doubt.He watched how and where we fished it. He however did not start fishing it right away. Eventually he started guiding more and converting to the twitched dry as well. I even remember when we first saw him twitching a dry in the Station. I was with Tony and we were like "Hey, he's stealing our technique" We had no idea what would happen over the next few years.
He then developed a similar fly which would become the Ska-opper that is now everywhere.The rest as they say is history.
Just trying to set it straight.