Here is the set up - I have gift certificate to a shop that carries two good lines of vises that I think fit my needs - Renzetti and Dyna King - I know both have their fans. I am replacing my very old original Thompson - so either will be a major upgrade.
Based on price, I would be looking at the Dyna King Trekker or maybe the Renzetti Traveler. I tie mostly trout sizes with a few salmon flies ( a bit more when trips are on the horizon )
my one question is hopefully simple - for those that have them - how stable are these vises with the pedestal instead of the clamp. I know they are lighter versions of the more expensive big brothers. Are they steady for moderate volume tying or is the portable feature too big a trade off? in which case I would drop down in price to the Peak which seems close in features to the others.
I have the same and I would also recommend it. I have the regular jaws that came with the vise. I generally tie 6's +/- a few sizes.
I like the pedestal base more than the clamp style, so I can put it anywhere on the table; not just on the edge. I've never had it shift or move without cause and is heavy enogh to stay put.
As you see in this thread, different strokes for different folks.
I would suggest that stability is really a question of good tying practices and really little to nothing about the size or weight of a pedestal base. If one understands that applying pressure with the thread is best done straight downward or straight upward and never sideways (including when spinning hair) then every pedestal will have the necessary stability for tying. Even a light base (2 to 3 pounds) will not be moved by pulling upward with thread that has a break strength of 1 pound or less. This would include almost all threads that are not made of Kevlar or aramide fiber. And even for those threads, pulling straight down will not cause instability before you cut the material off with the thread.
You can't go wrong with either vise , it's a matter of "feel" as to which one will suit you best . Test drive them both . Have the shop set up a tying session with you so you "feel" the vise . For what it's worth , I use a Renzetti Traveller with the pedestal base . I removed the sticky pads and replaced them with a high density foam rubber sheet to cover the entire base . Much better when tying on the dinning room table :hihi: I also find most vice stems too short for me , so I turned my own custom stem which added 4" to the original length .
Have you thought about a Regal clamp with a head suitable for your hook size? It holds the hook superbly and there is no adjusting. It is like a pair of vice grip pliers.
nice - i saw that on the original thread, stability defined.
However, I think I will stick with a pedestal base since my tying desk is an antique Victorian drop front writing desk. The little cubby holes and small drawers work well for hooks and materials, and simply closing the front when I walk away keeps the bird dogs and cats out of the feathers. And it doesn't look out of place in a nearly 200 year old house.
I agree with Halcyon. I used to use c-clamp but switched to pedestal and have never looked back. For the money, the Renzetti is great. I have used that vise but don't own it. I tie on an old Cherry desk with cubby holes, etc. Do not want to mar the finish! Love my Renzetti!!!!
Cheers, joelst
I have c-clamp & pedestal in Dyna-King & Renzetti - use them both at various times. If you get the Traveler pedestal & think its tippy, go down to a specialty lumber yard and get a slab of black walnut or cherry & make your own base - it won't go anywhere. Saw a pro tyer up here with a new Regal Revolution & a custom steel base - must weigh 10 lbs.
For those that would like a longer stand post than normally comes with a pedestal clamp you may find that a C - clamp stand post from the same manufacturer will fit your needs as these are generally 2 to 4 inches or more longer than the pedestal stand post for the same vise.
I have the Renzetti traveler with a pedestal base and have never had any issues with stability. I agree, getting any vise in the right tying position whether on a pedestal or c-clamp makes a huge difference. Just my .02.
I have a Renzetti Traveler with std bent arm and Clouser arm set up for sale if you are interested. with either a base or a C clamp.
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