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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 04-27-2020, 06:24 PM Thread Starter
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Hi all, hope everyone is doing well. got inspired by Dougs Tartan today, been a while since i tied a dee, so went with a variation of the Dunt, my turkey selection at the moment is crap, so went with a turkey kori sub from FMC for the wing, first try was a florican sub, but was way to light in color. also still trying to figure out how to get a smooth seal body dubbing, just started to work with it, so any tips welcome, thanks, cameron
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Darn near perfect in my opinion
White tip turkey is what you need my friend for those wings, but the
Kori does look amazing.
Beautiful form, excellent profile, dressed long and thin, well done


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thanks Mike, yeah i really need to resupply the turkey after all this stuff levels out and i can get back to work, but for now, will use what i got and settle for variations , cameron
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Cameron,

Nice and sparse which should be a good feature for quick sinking.

I have the same problem with seal dubbing. With its coarse texture, it is hard to bring the body into a smooth surface.

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That was not a bad cast. I was just casting to the nearby fish.
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For the seal try twisting it on a single thread sparsley, then double your thread and spin it up.

Edit, great looking Dunt by the way, and im with Mike white tipped turkey!
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I have the same problem with seal dubbing. With its coarse texture, it is hard to bring the body into a smooth surface.
Try Pig's wool dubbing, much finer texture.
A really good inexpensive cheat is angora dubbing

In my opinion, there is nothing better than Mohair to achieve the long, thin and sparse call out for the vintage Dee strip patterns. Mohair compacts easily and spins on evenly. For vintage patterns, I rarely use seal dubbing anymore after trying mohair.
[email protected] sells Bill Bailey's Kid Mohair, the same recipe as was 150 years ago and dyed to the same specifications from Francis Frances call outs.
John also has regular mohair with excellent colours, such as Highlander Green and Emerald that I use for the Balmoral.


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I'm not sure why you'd want a body dubbed with seal or other coarse texture to look small and sleek, when it wants to look like a hippie head from fifty years ago. Let your freak flag fly!
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Love the fly Cameron!! I happen to like the shaggy look of the seal...but that's me. The wing may not be the specified material, but it looks good on this fly.
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Aaaaah...

The good old Dunt!...

I remember there was a Dunt fly exchange on this site a few years back....
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This is a great looking Dee! I am with CSFT on this Dee. I like the body and might even brush it out a bit more. Nicely done Cameron.

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Fly style, profile, dressing density, etc is a personal taste and attributes to how a fly should look to an angler, no issues there Again, "your hook, your rules" right?

I believe when both Cameron and Doug mentioned they were working to get the body smooth, I assumed they were trying to follow directions of our forefathers who dressed these Dee strips in the beginning and laid out the ground rules for "how to" fashion this style correctly. As Mr. Brown depicted, along with Mr.Murdoch of Aberdeen fly dressers, every aspect of the Dee strip should represent as "long, thin and sparse". Body to be of long proportions and thin in nature, along with thin wing slips and long flowing hackles given the room for currents to flow through them and make them dance without restriction (sparse). This is the true nature of the fly, not a representation of any fauna. This is the vintage era dressings in relation to the intentions of the Dee strip only, no other fly style has this criteria. Again, these directions are only meant for those who wish to follow them and enjoy set directions. Personal flavors may vary ... "your hook, your rules"

I can go on about the design directions and how they relate to actual "fishing" qualities but I wouldn't want to hijack this thread more than I have done already .... my apologies Cameron


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I can go on about the design directions and how they relate to actual "fishing" qualities but I wouldn't want to hijack this thread more than I have done already .... my apologies Cameron


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Fly style, profile, dressing density, etc is a personal taste and attributes to how a fly should look to an angler, no issues there Again, "your hook, your rules" right?

I believe when both Cameron and Doug mentioned they were working to get the body smooth, I assumed they were trying to follow directions of our forefathers who dressed these Dee strips in the beginning and laid out the ground rules for "how to" fashion this style correctly. As Mr. Brown depicted, along with Mr.Murdoch of Aberdeen fly dressers, every aspect of the Dee strip should represent as "long, thin and sparse". Body to be of long proportions and thin in nature, along with thin wing slips and long flowing hackles given the room for currents to flow through them and make them dance without restriction (sparse). This is the true nature of the fly, not a representation of any fauna. This is the vintage era dressings in relation to the intentions of the Dee strip only, no other fly style has this criteria. Again, these directions are only meant for those who wish to follow them and enjoy set directions. Personal flavors may vary ... "your hook, your rules"

I can go on about the design directions and how they relate to actual "fishing" qualities but I wouldn't want to hijack this thread more than I have done already .... my apologies Cameron


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No hijacking going on here Mike, I welcome the info you provide. I believe my issue with the seal comes from looking at the vintage examples I've seen and the ones presented in both the Farlows and Hardys books, they all seem to be tightly dubbed with no shaggy-ness to them. Im fine with the shaggy-ness for fishing, just wouldn't mind getting it nice and smooth a time or two just for my own satisfaction I guess, Thanks Cameron
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Great tying, Cameron and a fun discussion. I kinda geek out over the why tyers tie things a certain way.
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