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I used Schlappen for hackle- it’s good but I would like something stiffer. BEP would work well but that’s hard to find....any suggestions for substitute??
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post #2 of 14 (permalink) Old 04-11-2020, 02:39 PM
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Try Britton's Blue Eared Pheasants. They raise their own birds. You have to order through their Facebook page.
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If you can't get BEP and if heron isn't your thing, there is always good ole' Pheasant Rump. Canadian Tube Fly Company has some very, very nice pheasant rump.


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post #4 of 14 (permalink) Old 04-11-2020, 04:43 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks guys!

Mike I did try using Pheasant Rump, but the feathers I had were too short for the usable part of the feather. I wasn't able to get enough wraps out of them. I will check out the CTF pheasant rump, thnx.
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I think that after fishing with that you will be pleased with the Schlappen. I use it almost exclusively on the same style flies and it's great stuff in the river. I like it so much that I keep a pile of nice stuff in white so I can dye to suit when needed.

If I want some stiffer feathers I'll wind some standard neck or short saddle hackle on first (just a couple turns) then use the softer longer fibers. I tell you this and I have a big bag of BEP feathers but prefer the density of Schlappen over the more elegant pheasant feathers.

Although these flies for Kings are quite different they are done in the way I described using dyed neck hackles as under body for both marabou and Schlappen fibers that will be nice and full and they will either slick down if the fly travels fast or puff & pulse if I'm doing a slight twitch in slower waters.



I've become very much a different kind of tier than I was just ten years ago. I gave up on making perfect classic ties and turned totally to a style that has proven to be more effective for me in fishing. Because of that I don't post much anymore, my flies aren't very special.

While I'm at it, this is really simple and I skate them / wake them for rainbows when the fish are looking up.


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Thanks Ard! In theory, I figured a stiffer hackle may work better in propping up the wing in the current, but I will fish this one and see. Schlappen would be ideal as it is pretty economical! I think you tied some winners there but I am pretty biased towards this style.

You know it's funny, I tie lots of different types of flies for trout fishing, but for swinging flies, I keep going back to this style. As you said, it moves great, fishes very well and there are other advantages of tubes that I really like. You are right tho, compared to the classic flies posted here, it won't win any beauty contests. I guess I am more of a practical fisherman and tier.

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Cheers right back to you Serge,

I tied these before there was a travel ban, they were for Atlantic Salmon. I doubt they will be used here because I am a creature of habit and so are these fish.







I was even tying on hooks for some patterns per guides instructions.



I made about 4 dozen all together and I trust they'll keep until next year

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Nice flies Ard! Wish you would post more

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Wow Ard you have been holding back on us. Nice!!!
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i always enjoy seeing the tubeflies that you and others put up . i tie and fish tubes quite a bit and they are some of my most successful flies .diversity is what keeps my mind entertained . or maybe it's just a.d.d . . (-:
i don't want to hijack the thread but ....
hey ARD , while i was fishing today i was thinkin' that you SHOULD post more of your ties ! i know there are quite a few stunning tiers that post classics on here . i'm in awe of their skills and i enjoy trying to emulate them . i've learned so much here . to that end , someone like yourself with so much experience and knowledge should absolutely share you're ties with us . they are well done and they catch fish , yes ? and that's what fishing is about !
so if if it's good with you , please continue to share your flies with us .
i'm sure there are others who would agree .
thanks , jim.

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I'll be making some this week to gift to a couple far flung friends and will post up some photos

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where do you find good quality Schlappen? The stuff I can get locally is terrible and I have been very hesitant to order online because I am not able to see what I will be getting?
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All schlappen is not created equal. I seek out stuff with good webbing and try to get it in 8-10" length. I've gotten very good qulity stuff from Waterswest, Deschutes Angler, Flyfishusa, Canadian Tube Fly Co and any merchant carrying Hareline or the UV2 from Spirit River.

Steer clear from Nature's Spirit. It is horrible stuff.
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Thanks! The Canadian Tube Fly Co. website is fantastic. They all seem to have some good stuff. I will give a couple of them a try. The local junk available is from Nature's Spirit.
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