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Hooks that suit the fly

I happen to own a very wide range of hooks due to an ongoing auction site addiction. Some have proven very useful. Jim Teeney's fly hooks among them. This hook is anything but elegant - short shank, sproat bend, ball eye, but it is terrific for small wets, and might find a use on foam floaters. If you tie and fish small wets, I think this hook is for you. Short and stout, it sinks well. Very sharp. Tiny, easily flattened barb. Very good temper - I have broken one, but have never bent one out. Tying a small fly on a 2X long fancy salmon hook makes no sense to me. Why not use a shorter shank hook with a larger gap? Teeney's hooks fill that bill nicely.

I also posted a pic of an attempt I made on the Twilight Spey (the woodie cheeks totally frizzed) because the very fishy little purple wet fly isn't very photogenic. BTW - I don't know Jim Teeney, so my tout is genuine.
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Those Teeny hooks resemble an old Mustad 3399. Which was a tad shorter than a 3906.
The 3906 was a standard wire wet fly hook , while the 3399 was 1x Stout, 1x Heavy. Great hooks in larger sizes for small steelhead wets.


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Oh yeah, nice flies too
I like that little purple wet.


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Those Teeny hooks resemble an old Mustad 3399. Which was a tad shorter than a 3906.
The 3906 was a standard wire wet fly hook , while the 3399 was 1x Stout, 1x Heavy. Great hooks in larger sizes for small steelhead wets.


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I've used those too, but the Teeney is better IMO. They are sharper, have better temper, and the barbs are tiny while those on Mustads tend to be huge. Oh, and they are blackened and made in the USA - and inexpensive, like Mustads. Kind of clunky looking, but great for fishing.
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You're so right steelhead23. Those Teeny hooks are terrific. In fact, if I were challenged to pick one hook that would be more likely to stay connected to the fish, it would be Jim's nymph hook. I always have green butt skunks on Teeny's 2s, 4s, and 6s when fishing the Deschutes, and my confidence level is way up when I've hooked a fish on a Teeny. The only hook a like as much for hookups is the Ahrex NS110 straight eye. Wide gap, with a slightly longer shank. The straight eye--to my eye--makes an even more elegant fly.
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Very cool hook and flies, steelhead23! That wee purple hairwing looks awesome and the married wing is not bad at all (the woody might even look fishier that way).

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Very cool hook and flies, steelhead23! That wee purple hairwing looks awesome and the married wing is not bad at all (the woody might even look fishier that way).

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Oops, I misspelled Mr. Teeny's name. Sorry. And thanks for the compliment, Adrian.

Perhaps I should start a new thread to do this, but I am going to give a few hook critiques, hoping folks will chime in.

Mustad hooks - an amazing variety of hooks were once made by this company and their catalog remains pretty extensive. Prior to their Signature hooks, all Mustad hooks were made in Norway and quality tended to be all over the place: most were quite serviceable, others had open eyes, way too large a barb, or were not all that sharp. The older Mustads were the hooks most of us learned on because they were inexpensive - and generally, pretty good. I have thousands, some of which are useful. Beware of two words you might not know - Kirbed or Kirby, and Reversed. These are hooks with the point bent outward, one way or the other. Such hooks hook fish well, but I have noticed that they tend to make flies swim on their side. I don't know that fish care, but I seldom use them for that reason. Temper seems about right, most can be bent out, but it takes a good amount of force. Today's Mustad Signature hooks, made in Asia, are very well made, equivalent to Tiemco I would venture.

Sealey or Herters hooks. Anyone remember Herters, the Donald Trump of the outdoor tackle world? Everything they sold was the World's Finest or presentation grade. Sealey made most of their hooks - in England. Both company's hooks are interesting. They are well made, better than the older Mustads generally, with very sharp needle points and nicely finished eyes. But the temper is downright brittle. I have broken many, particularly in trout sizes. And they rust very easily, owing to the very high carbon steel they use. If I were fishing for tuna, a great big Sealey hook would be my first choice, but in trout sizes, they are useless. I use them today for larger winter steelhead flies.

Partridge hooks. I have limited experience with these hooks due to cost. Bartleets in my collection seem a tad too light wire and I have broken two. Beautifully made, but I hesitate to say anything about quality. They do make great presentation hooks. Some older looped-eye heavy wire streamer hooks are a prized possession. Now they make their hooks in Asia. My experience suggests the English ones were better.

Asian hooks (Daiichi, Dai Riki, Talon, Gamakatsu, others). In general, I would say that the best hooks made today are coming out of Asia. They are consistently well made, with tiny barbs, and perfectly finished eyes. They dominate today's fly market, for good reason.

Eagle Claw hooks. I only recently discovered these made in America hooks. In my view, the quality lies between the older Mustads and the Asians, though the catalog is pretty sparse in the fly-tying realm. Inexpensive, I find the quality at the market price to be hard to beat.
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