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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 03-12-2020, 09:33 PM Thread Starter
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Neeeed Heeeeeelp...!

So, I've been gear fishing all my life. Finally started fly fishing about 2 yrs ago (only took 64 yrs to decide). Anyway, all the fishing I do now is either trout, steelhead or salmon, mostly trout & steelies. Just started Spey fishing a couple months ago (total greenhorn).
Now I have decided it's time to learn to start tying my own. Here's where I need the help..... I just bought a Regal Medallion vice and after looking at the mind boggling array of hooks, fur, threads, tools, and lets not forget this, that, those, and the other things, I have no idea where to start . I want a good set of tools, not sure of what I actually need tho. Also if I can get any info on all of the other things I'll need to get rolling here. My fishing is No. Calif. to B.C. to Mont. and anywhere in between that I might find myself. This is definitely a serious addiction!!! Any help very much appreciated, thank you in advance.

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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 03-12-2020, 09:53 PM
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Hey Steve! Thanks for post, you’ll have fun. I’ll give this a go, but you are going to get a myriad of answers I’m sure! I’ll lay out a little list and you can go from there my friend. Now keep in mind, skies the limit but this will get you going buddy.

HOOKS & SHANKS
•let’s get some Gamakatsu B10s hooks in there! Size#6- #2

•some stinger hooks for intruder style #4 & #2

•get a pack or 2 of aqua flies 35mm return eye shanks

THREAD:
•veevus 8/0 is pretty solid
•maybe a Veevus 6/0
(Stick with a couple spools of black, it’ll go with anything)

BOBBIN:
•get a ceramic bobbin (no need to spend a bunch on fancy stuff)

TOOLS:
•get a pair of dr slick razor scissors (only use on material and hackle!)

•grab a couple pair of cheap fiskars from local hardware store (use on thread and hair and anything other than your fine detail work.

•whip finish tool (although learning to do it by hand is way way better and easier)

•eye lash extension tweezers .....the double kind (best tool for picking anything out...trust me)

•OPST dubbing loop spinner (you might not need this right away, but very soon you will be thankful for it)

•hackle pliers (don’t spend too much)

BEADS & EYES
•get some brass beads that will fit on your Hooks

•a pack or 2 of aquaflies intruder eyes (Chartruese will go with almost anything ....Black 100% with anything)

FEATHERS:
•get a couple packs of fish hunter spey marabou or hardline bloodquill (black, KF Blue, Purple will do well, but buy what you like)

•get some schlappen in same colors

FUR:
•some arctic fox in corresponding colors to the feathers is great!!!!! Don’t skip this one

•rabbit strips (do 1/8”) black is tough to beat, but whatever else tickles your fancy

DUBBING & FLASH:

•seriously, go on ‘fly tyers dungeon’ and stick up!!! It’s ultra ultra cheap and awesome!!!!!! H2O is same as flashabou, and the arctic wind and starburst dubbing is all you need!!!!


NOW, get to tying!! Sorry if I forgot anything but this will get you in the game and probably all someone would ever need..........but what’s the fun in that??! 😉🤣

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Your local fly shop will have beginner classes and get you going in the right direction on everything you need and will be time well spent learning the right way of doing things.

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What Rifflehitch said X 4! And, I can tell you from personal experience that there is always something new to learn. Don't rush it, make a lot mistakes and ask for criticism, especially here, it will always be constructive and keep trying to improve. Keep in mind some of the simplest patterns catch the most fish!
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Welcome to the journey Steve. Think you,ll find it great to catch fish on flys you tyed. You Got a good vise so good start. I,m a Scot so take this with from that prescriptive but I,d say think about the fishing you want to do and the patterns you will be using and get Those materials first.As for tools you need a bokkin (think large needle),I use a gun cleaning brass brush for a dubbing brush,a whip finisher if you want to use one,never found a hackle plier any better than my fingers but that s me. A couple of bobbins to hold the thread, some thread I use Uni but lots of different opinions there so try some brands and see what you like. A hair stacker is nice to get the tips even for deer and elk hair. Good scissors are a must and as Yooper said keep the good ones special and use cheaper pair for cutting stuff that doesn,t need good ones.I use clear nail polish for lacquer as head cement on trout flys and Zap a gap for steelhead flys but again its personal opinion and lots of different ways to skin the cat. If you start with a few patterns you want to use and materials for those you will soon want to do others and before you know it will have a trunk full of various feathers and fur and tinsel and so it goes . Just remember its more the tradesman than the tools and when you do buy stuff try and get best you can afford but don,t buy a lot till you know what you want and need.there are hundreds of hours of you tube videos so thats a great resource that wasn,t invented when I started and the best tip I can think of is to use a small section of a drink straw slit length ways on your bobbin and used when your tying the head in, just slide it up over eye and use it to hold hackle back out of you way. Hope you enjoy tying for many years,its a great pass time. Daryl
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Thank you guys for the responses. This is a great site!!

Tight Lines to you all!

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A good light, a comfy work space, and ten times more tupperware and storage than you think you will need. Watch some tying videos online and get/use what they use.

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Of all the words already offered...the suggestion of getting into a beginners class is A#1. Nothing will do you more good.

To be brutally honest...I am NOT a Regal fan, but that is strictly a personal observation. I would have held off buying a vise or anything else until working with whoever and whatever class gets you started. Unless you've already begun spending your hard earned cash, wait until you get steered in the right direction by good and knowledgeable people one on one...nothing better.

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I love tying flies. Start with a classic: the woolly bugger.

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