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Fake Jungle Cock

Anyone have anything to say about the profisher jungle cock substitute? I'd like to use the real thing, there is one shop nearby but they want over $300 for a cape.(not happening) Same grade elsewhere is $175 online without seeing it I'm pretty leary. Maybe the replica is ok? Thoughts?
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Noooo. Even a low-grade JC cape would be a better choice.
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I agree....fake JC looks...fake

Try searching eBay for JC capes. There are some good deals that pop up from now and then.
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Anyone have anything to say about the profisher jungle cock substitute? I'd like to use the real thing, there is one shop nearby but they want over $300 for a cape.(not happening) Same grade elsewhere is $175 online without seeing it I'm pretty leary. Maybe the replica is ok? Thoughts?
Honestly Jiggs, I like the $100 capes with split nails. Makes no difference for fishing and it still looks great! Also, lots of usable nails and swords on the capes as well. I bought a $100 cape 6 months ago and I’m still plucking from it 🤣
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Definitely do NOT waste your money on the fake JC stuff! Way overpriced, and looks really crappy (imho). I tried using some years ago, never even had the confidence or inclination to cast one of them, ever! Even the absolute worst, moth ridden and picked over cape would at least yield some nice looking flies. I’ve purchased two capes since then, both of them were a “mid grade” cape and cost me $75 and $80 respectively. I’ve tied a ton of flies with those capes, and still have most of the second one left. In other words; they are worth it in the long run.
Keep your eyes peeled in the classifieds, you’ll find a good deal at some point, in the meantime there are plenty of other ways to attract a steelheads attention to your flies.
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I actually have all this...………..



But I use the Pro Sportfisher Gen 2 in sizes medium and large on my salmon tubes. Other than the fact that they aren't real feathers the flies look the same in the water and the eyes remain soft and are durable.

I'll go make a picture of a fly and post it.....

One tube has natural eyes.



I use those flies for silver salmon because they can be hard on flies even when on tubes. I wanted to try the artificial eyes so to give them a fair shake and they catch like normal flies do.
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Wow Ard you are sitting on a gold mine...if you ever need to offload some of your JC capes lemme know!

On the flies you posted it’s hard to tell which one has the fake JC eyes...I think it’s the one in middle....they must have improved the stuff since the last time I checked cause they look pretty good...

This thread begs me to ask - do the fish ever care about JC eyes? Don’t steelhead take the flies from behind? I know that a good pair of JC eyes makes me feel better about the fly!
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I slowly pluck through them Serge and have been shopping out a new one lately just to stay deep on the bench as they say

You picked the real one, and on the do the fish care, I think not. It's me who fell into the traditional pit by the late seventies. Every streamer and salmon steelhead fly had to have them and I stayed that way all these years. On my home forum I've come under fire (heated at times) for being a purist, an elitist, and over the past six to 8 years I've loosened up a bit. Still fish long belly line and eschew long sink tips but hey, I fish tubes so I can't be too dyed in the wool right

I use all naturals on my trout and steelhead trout flies so just salmon flies here for the artificial stuff but not on my King flies!

So the OP is getten some feedback......

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Err I meant to say it’s hard to tell which one has the real JC eyes in my last post...
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This thread begs me to ask - do the fish ever care about JC eyes? Don’t steelhead take the flies from behind? I know that a good pair of JC eyes makes me feel better about the fly!
I think we all know the answer to this.

If you're tying presentation flies, then the real deal definitely counts.

If it's a fishing fly, buy the imitation, and get busy swingin'.

Use the money you save on a good bottle of whisky!

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Dang Ard, those look good!! Maybe I’ll have to try some
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I knew someone would work that whiskey equation Hi Bob, it's cold here now, I'm done fishing so I'm faking it.

And Yooper, I think the medium Gen 2 eyes have the most all round applications. Large ar …. well, large. I use a little of each. I like to keep it real but had to try them, 2020 will be my second season throwing fakes.

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Dang Ard, those look good!! Maybe I’ll have to try some
I'm tellen Ya, blue and hot pink marabou, put a drop weight on a micro tube and top it off with the yellow sonic cone and they catch silvers like magic here. It's just an adaptation of what I was doing on hooks ten years bck put on a tube.

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Dang Ard, those look good!! Maybe I’ll have to try some
I'm tellen Ya, blue and hot pink marabou, put a drop weight on a micro tube and top it off with the yellow sonic cone and they catch silvers like magic here. It's just an adaptation of what I was doing on hooks ten years bck put on a tube.
Must be the sonic boom! Actually, that would be a good name for a fly Ard!
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