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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old 11-18-2019, 11:09 AM Thread Starter
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Anyone know of a great tube kit?

Each year I try something new, and although I've dabbled with tube flies in the past, I think that this upcoming season my challenge will be to crack the spring-run Atlantic Salmon code using just tube flies.

I've already tied a bunch on plastic tubing, but am looking to expand into brass/copper, variations on junctions and would tend to lean toward double-point hooks.

Been scouring through the big sites and my local online retailers looking for a suitable kit bundle of varied tubing (metals/plastics/colors/sizes) but am coming up short. I don't need any mandrels or vice adapters, which alot of the kits include, and I'm not big on cone-heads, beads, or spinners.

Does anyone know of a nice kit that has copious amounts of variety just in tubing, junctions, liners, without all the accessories? I'm willing to spend, but just don't want all the extras to clutter the already-cluttered trying arsenal.

Thanks in advance for any guidance you may offer!
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The first one that comes to mind is the Canadian Tube fly Company although I have never purchased from them directly and only through fly shops.

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Thanks Dan, I got my first set of materials through CTFC, and have checked out their kits.
They will be the default choice, but even the basic kit comes with a bunch of stuff I don't need.

Perhaps I will just have to make a piecemeal purchase from them after all, unless someone else chimes in with a secret source.
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Hey There.......we do often swap out items for guys looking to personalize the tube kits we offer. Several customers already have tapered pins or vise adapters and want more of a specific type of tube to work with. Please shoot us an email [email protected]. We can definitely personalize a kit for you!

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And that answers that question. Nice.

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I think you have a couple really good choices to go to. I’ll just share my opinion or options and you can decide if they fit what you are after.

1. Although I’ve never purchased from Canadian Tube Fly, I think it’s a solid option for sure.

2. Skeena River Fly supply has some great options as well. I normally purchase the 3mm glitter tube (or any color you want) and then the 1.8mm ‘tough tubes’ for the liner. Tough tubes are much stronger than traditional 1.8mm tubes. You could just get the 3mm tubing in Pearl glitter and call it good, it seems to blend with anything and you don’t have to make an intricate body either.
Jaap has beads and cones that fit perfectly and the options are easy to wade through.
They also have different weights and such to use. I’ll tell you though, for a money saving tip, you can just buy 5.5mm beads, either brass or tungsten, and they will slide over the 1.8mm tube. Now you have a weight and a nice tie in point. Easy

3. Protube has a nice system as well. All their cones and weights fits there tubing. I’m currently experimenting with their 2.2mm tubing. It’s ultra strong, and you don’t need any liner tubing or anything. They make beautiful cones that slide right over and weights that slide right on. Quite simple and very durable and still have a small profile. I wouldn’t mess with the pre-connected stuff myself, just the 2.2mm classic tubing. It’s cheaper and more versatile and stronger IMO. And you still get a nice small profile in the front.

Those would be my three choices if I wanted to get into tube tying.

Keep it simple, get a couple packs of a silver glitter outer tubing or 2.2mm tubing, and a couple packs of clear 1.8mm (if you don’t go the protube route). Order some junction tubing from any of them and get some 5.5mm beads (if you don’t go the protube route). Good to go

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DDO Electronics or what ever their name is now , on Sources Bld., has shrink wrap tubing that lends itself very well as junction tubing . This stuff has never failed me

For clear plastic I use the protective stuff that covers/protects a pediatric hypodermic needle supplied/from a certain children's hospital .

Copper and Brass tubes can be found at the Orvis store downtown YUL .The fly shops in Trois Rivieres and Rimouski . Claude's shop in Rimouski also has the essential Salar doubles.

There'll be several sources for metal tubes at the FF Forum in 3 Rivieres this weekend

For cones try cutting off some pop river tubes ;-)

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I have done well in the past and this week with feathers from GCTC, and the Scandi Tubes received on Saturday are fine, but the copper kit is a disaster. I am glad Stu showed up here, as I am awaiting for a call back. I left 2 voicemails for him yesterday.

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As I noted in my Voicemail, as this is my first time, the error could be me and even ask if there is a reference instruction or video for threading the tubes. One kit had a start, the other did not.

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Concrete Angler, you want craft/model shops or DIY shops.With a bit of rummaging round you should be able to locate lengths of Aluminium and Brass tubing of maybe 1m in length that you can cut to suit your requirements(it'll be a lot cheaper than buying pre- cut tubes!), thin plastic lines is available every where as you'll need to line your tubes.
All this isn't really a hassle as it adds totally to the "making your own flee" experience and you end up with exactly what you want.
For your first forays I'd look to mastering the classic Gold Bodied Willie Gunn.Gold body(der, obviously!) with a veiled wing of Yellow, then Orange then Black, maybe Jungle cock if your flush.Once finished you need to be able to see the body through the winging and the length of the wing should extend just beyond the tube to cover your choice of hook-just!
Learn all about technique, proportion and size, its a great pattern to master the basics of Tubes.Garry Dog, Silver Stoats Tail to name but two are excellent patterns that will get you on the right tracks to being more adventurous in your things.
I'm a great Tube flee fan, using them for 1/4" plastic up to 3" copper almost totally these days.
If you feel confident try the Scandi style of tying on wee plastic tubes, of 1/4", 3/8ths or 1/2", they do look amazing in the water, full of movement!.
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Hello Dave,

So sorry about the confusion......I just shot you an email. There is a bit of a trick to lining our copper tubes.....it's a tight fit, thought when you get the liner in there is no spinning when you have it on your tying needle or vise adapter.....it makes a really nice snug fit. We specifically addressed this with the liner a few years ago because in our own tying with metal tubes, the frustration of the metal spinning on the liner is beyond frustrating :-)

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Stu, got the email and video link. Will try later, but the tube will not push in far enough to grab the liner and pull. I spent time yesterday trying to roll the first 2 inches flat, so I could push enough in to pull. Hoping the video is the magic I need to learn.
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Stu, the video shows flatting the tube with finger, and then pushing it up a shorter tube. I ordered the 1" and 1.5" copper tube.

I have flatten with fingers, I have flatten with a kitchen rollers, and I even tried to slice half of the tube away, but as illustrated in the picture below, the width of the flatten tube is greater than the inner diameter. So, I am getting the inner tube in 1/2" and then the resistance is to much.

I had a clue in flattening, as one 1" kit had a flatten end and a tube inserted, but all other attemnpts with another 1" or replicating with the 1.5" tube has failed. David
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aside, I have rolled the inner tube subnstantially to flatten it, it is shredding.
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That looks very odd....maybe you can try different liner tubing.

I found that FITS products aren't compatible with Foxytails or protube as they have slightly different diameters. I'd be happy to mail you a few samples to try.

Maybe one of the other companies liner tubing will fit.

I have to say that I have always received great service and products from Stu.
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Hey Dave,

I am so sorry about this. When you received the pack of tubes, the liner should have been pulled to stretch onto your tube like a threaded needle. We've pulled and stretched the soft liner tube a million times and forget that no one else has. Our apologies. We have a package going out first thing tomorrow with the stretched tubing and a few other goodies to hopefully make up for the screw up :-)

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