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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 09-22-2019, 03:07 PM Thread Starter
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Daiichi's AJ Spey Hooks

I realize there are a lot of variables to hooking and sticking a fish, but what are your opinions of Daiich's AJ hooks. This morning I had an hour to kill and went 0-3 on the Rogue. Then it dawned on me that I have lost quite a few fish on them since June (new arrival to the Rogue Valley). Granted two of the fish struck when I was lining (retrieving) for the next cast and stayed on until I reached the Versi-leader. The 3rd fish hit mid swing, did a couple of head shakes then immediately ran upstream.. I am losing too many fish! Though not required I debarb every hook and sharpen them sticky sharp. SMH! Maybe that's why it's called "fishing" and not "catching," eh?
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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 09-22-2019, 03:43 PM
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Some 20yrs ago I read an article about using stinger hooks and how they increased their landing ratio. I promptly tied up a bunch of flies using size 2 octopus hooks and proceeded to lose 8 fish in a row, went back to AJ's and landed the next ten, then had another bout of losses.

Losing fish is part of the game, it happens to everyone!
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I can't comment on the hooks you mention because I have not used them. However, I can tell you that my hookup and landing percentages are very good with tube flies, once I figured out how to use them up properly. I think the combination of smaller hook and control over hook placement leads to more fish landed. I'm sure the fish also appreciate the smaller hooks.
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I've said before, I've had issues with two series of Daiichi hooks, the 2050 series and the 2091 series.
I've had the gap open 2050 series and I have had mid way up the bend snap right off.
I de-barb all my hooks prior to tying, usually with a set of pliers, but switched over to a dremel tool for the 2091's and still have issues with the breakage.

No other issues with the other series of hooks. I use the 2271's, 2441's and 2131's often with no issues.

Maybe I have been fortunate with not loosing fish with the larger hooks (other than mentioned above). I have not noticed what some mention as the "lever effect".


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I have lost fish using AJ's.....
Then again I've lost fish with just about any hook....

I do find AJ's a bit brittle though, and the point can break off, so I tend to tie on Blue Herons if I want to tie on that style of hook.

I feel fairly confident when hooked up with a 1.5 or #3 AJ in the fishes mouth, perhaps more so than the smaller #5 or #7..... even though a short shank hook behind a tube or a shank is absolutely going to provide a better chance of landing a hooked fish, in my opinion.

But it sure is satisfying to see a pretty fly, tied on an AJ or Blue Heron, in the corner of a fishes mouth....
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Your mileage may vary but ...

I never fish 1.5 AJs anymore and shift to Blue Heron for that size and larger. The 1.5 AJ has a reputation for opening up. Some guys, including some well respected anglers on here, claim it is not deserved. I’ve lost too many fish over the years to completely discount it.

I regularly fish the smaller sizes: 3,5,7. Then again Blue Heron doesn’t make models in those sizes.

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i haven't had any open up, but i have broken a lot of them at the bottom of the bend or just behind the barb, maybe from putting the barb down with pliers, haven't tried a dremel, but maybe the next few i will, the only reason i still use them is cost, .80 for AJ or 1.29(retail) for the blue heron, have never had a BH break though so all 1.5(#3 for BH) or bigger i tie on BH, just wish they came in some smaller sizes, but since i just got a few hundred in this summer i should be good for awhile, cameron
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Alec was a good friend, he never charged me for a hook and let me crash at his place when I flew up to buy Polly Roseboroughs collection when I was 18.

That being said, I prefer the MCN spey with it's 5ish degree up eye to AJs 45 degree eye. Both from a tying and fishing standpoint.

They're both great hooks and you can't go wrong with either, imo.
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I love the look of the AJ salmon hooks and especially their heavier steelhead irons. I tie most of my wet flies on the Steelhead Irons and my muddlers/skaters on the AJ salmon hooks instead. That said, I've lost lots of fish on all sorts of hooks, AJ's, Gami B10s stingers, OPST swing hooks. The right head shake with the right hook angle and poof, game over.

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