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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 09-05-2019, 11:53 AM Thread Starter
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Just for kicks, I have recently been experimenting with tying a pattern with natural materials to see if it is possible to get a pattern to stay on top consistently without foam. Good visibility would also be nice. I gravitated towards bomber style patterns and would get frustrated with my flies rolling over and going under after a short time. The other day, I was fishing a run with sun on the water and a bomber just seemed appropriate. However. I anticipated a short lived window where my fly would stay on top. Out of frustration, I decided to try hacking off part the longish front facing wing to see if that would help. Go figure, it made a night and day difference as my bomber now rode on the surface pretty consistently.

As my tinkering mind continued to work, I came up with adding a black cow elk wing behind the split calftail wing to add stiffness and contrast. The test run with this pattern proved it to be nearly unsinkable, even with it being tied on a stout 1xl nymph hook. The proportions of the pattern are true to the foam fly I tie, hence the name. Click image for larger version

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great tie Todd, after seeing this late last night on IG, i had to try one, didn't get much sleep lol, so it came out much cruder than yours, but i like it and will definitely be tying another one, really like the added wing, cameron
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Au naturel - Right On.

Been meaning to borrow from Harry Lemire using clumps of elk or moose mane wrapped in the bodies of surface patterns tied on stout saltwater hooks to keep the fly onto little longer better.

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that thing could pin Godzilla!

Nice work


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Very cool stuff here !!
I like the pattern immensely Todd and will replicate it for my fall salar hunt in a few weeks. I still have plans to continue my efforts with getting a salar to take one of your Wangs !!


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great tie Todd, after seeing this late last night on IG, i had to try one, didn't get much sleep lol, so it came out much cruder than yours, but i like it and will definitely be tying another one, really like the added wing, cameron
Thanks Cameron, glad that you like my pattern! Show us how yours turned out.

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Au naturel - Right On.

Been meaning to borrow from Harry Lemire using clumps of elk or moose mane wrapped in the bodies of surface patterns tied on stout saltwater hooks to keep the fly onto little longer better.

Thanks for sharing your findings,
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Thanks, look forward to see what you come up with!


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Thanks! I know this pattern is pretty busy and not too pretty, but that's how my purely functional brain works!


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Very cool stuff here !!
I like the pattern immensely Todd and will replicate it for my fall salar hunt in a few weeks. I still have plans to continue my efforts with getting a salar to take one of your Wangs !!


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Thanks Mike! Ohhhh, I'd love to see your rendition of this fly! You have a way of taking a pattern/idea and coming up with something with 10x more class!

Yes, would be cool to see one of those stuffy salars take a back alley fly like a wang someday!

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Out of frustration, I decided to try hacking off part the longish front facing wing to see if that would help. Go figure, it made a night and day difference as my bomber now rode on the surface pretty consistently.

This matches so much of my own experience when it comes to getting flies to wake: the thing that looks like it will keep it on the surface buries it, and vice versa. Great fly.
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Out of frustration, I decided to try hacking off part the longish front facing wing to see if that would help. Go figure, it made a night and day difference as my bomber now rode on the surface pretty consistently.

This matches so much of my own experience when it comes to getting flies to wake: the thing that looks like it will keep it on the surface buries it, and vice versa. Great fly.
So true Lyle! Even with my foam flies, this balance is so important. One could assume "hey, I have resorted to tying with foam, what could go wrong, this thing should stay on top no matter what". But I have found if I leave the foam lip too long on my flies, they roll over.

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This is a really cool fly Todd! Super buggy, reminds me of a bushy caterpillar. Hope it produces for you.

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This is a really cool fly Todd! Super buggy, reminds me of a bushy caterpillar. Hope it produces for you.

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Thanks Nate! I'm sure as with just about any fly, if it stays on the line long enough, a steelhead will eventually eat it. Look at the wang, just a circus on a hook, but it's been all I have fished for the past several years and guess what? It does get a steelhead on occasion...

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Nothing but straight up freaking awesome!
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Thanks Alan, glad you like it!

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