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Question about Daiichi 2141 hooks

My supply of TMC 700 hooks is winding down and it looks like (maybe) the Daiichi 2141 is close to the same.

Do any of you use this hook and how does it compare to the TMC 700?
Are there better alternatives?

On a few occasions I have used a heat source to adjust the eye of a hook. I would like to bend the eye of the 2141 down so it is much more like the 700. For fishing purposes how much weaker am I making the hook by doing this?

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I use the Ahrex FW581 as a replacement for the TMC 700. I prefer it to the Daichi 2141, it has a wide gap, down eye and barbless. Much closer match to the 700.
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I love the 2141. Almost all of my Manic Muddlers are tied on it. Barb bent down, it hooks and holds fish as well as anything else I have used. I use 4's, generally.
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I use the Ahrex FW581 as a replacement for the TMC 700. I prefer it to the Daichi 2141, it has a wide gap, down eye and barbless. Much closer match to the 700.
I have those hooks in 4 & 6, I just wish they were a bit longer. However, you are right they are really close to the TMC700.

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I have those hooks in 4 & 6, I just wish they were a bit longer. However, you are right they are really close to the TMC700.

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Chris, have you tried the Partridge CS42 Bomber hooks ??
They are a little longer and have a loop down eye as well.


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Love this discussion.

Just as an aside, my steelhead mentor in his early 80's still uses the old Mustad 1197.....

I have been tying some old standard patterns on the Gama T10-6H Salmon Hook. Seems nice and strong for size 4 and 6 and it too seems to stay put with the barb down. Nice and sharp.

Might this be a candidate for you?

Wonder what others think of this hook? thanks

good topic.

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"Chris, have you tried the Partridge CS42 Bomber hooks ??
They are a little longer and have a loop down eye as well.


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I haven't but thank you for the suggestion.

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Love this discussion.

Just as an aside, my steelhead mentor in his early 80's still uses the old Mustad 1197.....

I have been tying some old standard patterns on the Gama T10-6H Salmon Hook. Seems nice and strong for size 4 and 6 and it too seems to stay put with the barb down. Nice and sharp.

Might this be a candidate for you?

Wonder what others think of this hook? thanks

good topic.

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I use those hooks as well, and they are good. However, every once in a while it's kind of fun to use a hook with a slightly different look, and that's where the TMC700's fit in, along with some other hooks I use every so often.

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Huge fan of the Gama T10-6H!
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Daiichi 2117

Last night I bought some size 6 Daiichi 2117's from my local fly shop. The limerick bend in not quite as pronounced as I would like it, but overall a good looking hook. Not the heavy wire like the TMC700, however. On the other hand, I can readily find them. Daiichi markets them as "Bomber" hooks.

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Anyone tried a Firehole Sticks 839? Somewhat similar to a 700. I'm just starting to play with the firehole hooks and so far it looks promising....but haven't stuck anything big with them yet.

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Anyone tried a Firehole Sticks 839? Somewhat similar to a 700. I'm just starting to play with the firehole hooks and so far it looks promising....but haven't stuck anything big with them yet.
Those do look good, and close to the 700. I can't say I had ever heard of them until your post.

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Ditto on Gary's comment. I like the Gama T10 6H, especially in size #4.

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