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I would like to pick up a used vise to tie some steelhead flies. I am having fun tying tubes, but I would like to branch out at least to shanks and a few Spey patterns. Recommendations? The rotary vises seem useful. Thank you.

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If you can locate a used Norvise at a reasonable price you will never regret having it. Once you get used to it you'll love it.
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Ill second the Norvise, had mine for about 14yrs now and cant tie without it!
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I prefer an IPA or a good bourbon. Oh, wait.....

I have had several, but have to admit to a fondness for the Regal. You can get it in rotary, but I've never used that feature much.
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Check Poppy's site, he has renzetti 4000 available. They are sweet vises.
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Several options: first figure out your budget and then play with a few in a shop and see what fits your hands. True-Rotary is nice even if you don’t tie that way, it aids in seeing all sides of the fly without jumping out of your chair. Griffin, Dyna-King, Renzetti, Regal, Nor-vise, HMH, among others offer numerous models that will hold all of your Steelhead hook sizes and some will hold very large hook sizes if you ever want to get into presentation hooks or large saltwater flies. And one day you could graduate to tying in-hand and use whatever you buy as a paperweight.

Personally I started with a non-rotary vise like many of us, and once I bought a rotary vise my tying life changed so much that I only use my stationary vises out of nostalgia. I think the biggest thing (apart from hook-holding power...never an issue with a quality vise these days) is how it will fit your hands and if you like the feel of it. Then you’ll want to use it more. There are lots of extra options to suit just about everyone’s needs, but most are not necessary if you’re only going to tie personally and don’t really need the works.

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I love my Regal Medallion. Not technically "rotary", but close enough. 20+ years big saltwater and tiny trout and still like new.
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It must hold the hook. All the bells and whistles won't mean a thing if the vise cant hold the heavy irons. The Regal is a no brainer, but there are others that do well. Good luck

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My default is a Renzetti Presentation, and I do use it as a true rotary. For very large hook, or saltwater flies that you reverse for wings (like a bonefish gotcha), I prefer a low angle setup with a clear path backwards, here the HMH wins.
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I don’t know about the need for “true rotary” or “full rotary”, but definitely need to be able to rotate the head 360* in my opinion. The Regal Medalion vices are pretty sweet for that, and really user friendly as far as quick, secure hook mounting. I very recently got a Dyna King Trekker, which is full rotary, and I do like a few things about it better than the Regal. I haven’t yet really been that enamored with full rotary tying. I use it some, but I wouldn’t say it’s been life changing or anything. I do like the added space behind the hook; with the Medallion if you mount the hook inline with the vise to allow “semi rotary” tying there is a bit less access to the back of the hook for smaller flies. Never bothered me a lot, but I do prefer the access I get with the Trekker. I also find that the Trekker holds bigger saltwater hooks a bit better than the Regal.
Kinda personal tastes really though, lots of nice vises out there now.
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What vise have you been using for your tube flies? Also, after reading the previous posts, do you prefer a Regal, Renzetti, or HMH vise? Budget pricing is always a consideration. Do you have a price in mind?

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There are a lot of great vises, it really depends on your budget. I worked in fly fishing retail for 15 years and had an opportunity to tie on most of them.

In my opinion the best bang for your buck is Regal. I tied commercially on my old one for years, it holds a wide range of sizes from #18 trout hooks to #10/0 saltwater.

I currently tie on an HMH Standard (not recommended) and it is literally falling apart after 3 years. Between multiple broken jaws and 9-10 cam pins I finally gave up and ordered a Dyna King Barracuda Excalibur yesterday. I tie a lot of flies so a $600-$700 investment is worthwhile. However you can find vises for under $40 that hold a hook securely to get you started.

Good luck and have fun tying.
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Do Regal vises still send hooks across the room
I remember guys complaining about not lining up the hook well enough to the grooves and snapping the hook clear across the room
Actually, when you think about it, that is a safety hazard
I hated "grooves" in jaws when I tied on a vise.

Celeste is using my old Renzetti Traveler Pedestal vise and she likes it as much as I did. I put thousands of hooks in that Renzetti Traveler and never any issues. Celeste is still working on her first hundred and she's not having any issues so far. If this Traveler ever dies, I will get her another.
I tied on a couple Griffin vises and found them to hold the hooks very well ... about as good as the Renzetti.
Anvil vise was okay too ... never liked the HMH vises. I could never understand the "hype" behind them. I thought they operated "clunky".

If you can "test drive" some vises before purchasing, it would be the best way to find out which vise suits you best.
Like all things, comfort level is personal

Best hook holding apparatus that I have found so far




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I think the issue of shooting hooks across the room is only with very small hooks (sz 16 or less) being mounted incorrectly in the tips of the jaws. When mounting the hook in the groove, or bigger hooks in general, this just isn’t an issue at all. Of course some out there somehow or another can/will probably find a way to injure themselves. There must be a vise out there that someone has or will have an “issue” of getting their finger stuck in the jaws too I’m sure lol
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