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post #1 of 4 (permalink) Old 10-11-2016, 05:35 PM Thread Starter
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question on your salmon hook flies

I notice that a lot of flies tied on the classic bent back eye salmon hooks leave all or most of the eye open. Why is this? I usually end up tying right to the eye loop and tying there. I'm thinking that some of you might be using some kind of knot that goes thru the eye and ties on the shank to give the fly a straight shot from shank to line instead of tied on the kinked eye. Educate me my fly tying friends.

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post #2 of 4 (permalink) Old 10-11-2016, 06:33 PM
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Its not a knot thing, just a style. I tie like you do and use a Turle knot. I am not a fan of leaving a big space between the head of the fly and the eye. Looks unbalanced to me.

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And then I find this down the thread a ways...
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post #4 of 4 (permalink) Old 10-11-2016, 09:42 PM
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I notice that a lot of flies tied on the classic bent back eye salmon hooks leave all or most of the eye open. Why is this? I usually end up tying right to the eye loop and tying there. I'm thinking that some of you might be using some kind of knot that goes thru the eye and ties on the shank to give the fly a straight shot from shank to line instead of tied on the kinked eye. Educate me my fly tying friends.

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You're talking about the return eye hook (up-eyed), rather than the more traditional round eyed hooks (straight eye, up-eye or down eye).

The real 'classic' eye is the gut-eye on a blind-eye hook.

However, when tying on an up-eye hook, a small amount of the shank behind the eye is left bare (free from the tying silk & varnish of your head) so that the illustrated knot may be cinched onto the hook shank, leaving the leader truly in line with the shank of the hook - these knots are either the Turle or double-Turle knots. In other aspects of fishing (eg. carp & coarse fishing, and sea fishing) knots tied in a similar fashion but with far more turns are either the knotless knot or the snell. These 'knots' can also be used on blind eye hooks and spade-end hooks, as well as eyed hooks.

There is a theoretical advantage of the leader being in line with the shank of the hook - there is a direct pull from the leader to the shank of the fly and theoretically less of a torsional moment which may pull the hook point better into the fishes mouth (& less fish lost).




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