Two pawls??? - Spey Pages
 1Likes
  • 1 Post By Botsari
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 01-29-2020, 08:07 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: North Umpqua and Oregon Coast
Posts: 2,282
Two pawls???

How many of you guys engage both pawls on reels that have them?
moethedog is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 01-29-2020, 11:34 PM
Registered User
 
808steelheader's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Oregon Steelhead Water
Posts: 1,913
Quote:
Originally Posted by moethedog View Post
How many of you guys engage both pawls on reels that have them?
I engage both pawls on some of my clickers. On my Hardy Salmon 1s and Salmon 2, the springs don't seem stiff enough to prevent overrun with only one pawl engaged. Never had a problem engaging both pawls.

T


My Blog:
Dryline Steelhead - Oregon
http://toddhirano.blogspot.com/
808steelheader is offline  
post #3 of 10 (permalink) Old 01-30-2020, 12:59 AM
Dedicated Fisherman
 
Hardyreels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Alaska, Skwentna to Kodiak
Posts: 3,198
Send a message via Skype™ to Hardyreels
I'd need to look to be sure but I still have a couple big perfects and a St. Aidan and I think I have one, the correct one for my left hand retrieve.

Kill the hens you kill the river.
Hardyreels is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 10 (permalink) Old 01-30-2020, 11:05 PM
Registered User
 
unch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: SR and CNY
Posts: 126
On my old SA System/Marquis reel, I have both pawls engaged most of the time. Just the single pawl is a bit too light to prevent overrun on those fish that grab and turn down stream.

Mend it!
unch is online now  
post #5 of 10 (permalink) Unread 02-01-2020, 10:30 PM
Registered User
 
klickrolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Klickitat
Posts: 947
Never experienced anything that's made me think I needed to engage the second pawl. I've caught 20# chinook with a 4.25" perfect with one pawl and never thought of the need for another. Most of dealing with a large or hot fish is done via palming the spool in some way or another, depending on the reel. If half your line is in the water while engaged with a fish you shouldn't worry about your reel creating slack line (over run), it won't.
klickrolf is offline  
post #6 of 10 (permalink) Unread 02-03-2020, 12:51 PM
Registered User
 
Uncle Stu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 63
My main reel is a new-model Pflueger Medalist 7/8 and I like having both pawls engaged, just for the amount of resistance when I pull line off the reel or when I'm fighting a fish by palming the rim. Just feels better to me--your mileage may vary.

____________________________________

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.
Uncle Stu is offline  
post #7 of 10 (permalink) Unread Yesterday, 09:03 PM
Registered User
 
Captcaveman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 196
What rod you have that New Medalist matched up to Uncle Stu?

-Sean
Captcaveman is online now  
post #8 of 10 (permalink) Unread Today, 01:29 PM
Registered User
 
Uncle Stu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 63
Quote:
Originally Posted by Captcaveman View Post
What rod you have that New Medalist matched up to Uncle Stu?
It's on my Echo Classic 11' switch 6w... nice match. Holds plenty of backing along with an 8w Airflo Sniper line.

____________________________________

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.
Uncle Stu is offline  
post #9 of 10 (permalink) Unread Today, 02:19 PM
Registered User
 
coalbe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Anything within 6hrs of Portland, Oregon.
Posts: 168
I have both pawls engaged on my old Perfect. It sounds like a misfiring Harley-Davidson with an attitude problem, yet the drag still leaves a little more to be desired. I still love it though.

"Take care of the fish, and the fishing will take care of itself." — Art Neumann
coalbe is online now  
post #10 of 10 (permalink) Unread Today, 05:49 PM
Registered User
 
Botsari's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Northern California
Posts: 3,118
They were never specifically intended to be both engaged, at least in most designs I have seen. You can do it, but the clicks from each pawl will not generally be in sync, and like a different beat in music may or may not sound less attractive to your ear. Also of course the difference between the incoming and outgoing feel will get wiped out. Still, at least the opposite pawls were designed to fit the ratchet in the original configurations. I wouldn’t try flipping one or more of the pawls over though, as has sometimes been suggested. While there may be some designs where this will be fine, and also some where it will not do too much damage, these things have a specific and precise designs and asymmetries and you may end up chewing the mechanisms up over the long haul doing that.

I prefer the sound of a lower frequency, more distinct clicking and usually try to jigger with the springs if there is an issue with not enough stiffness, but I have used both as a temporary expedient. There are instructions on past threads for jiggering with springs, as well as for re-annealing them in your oven. Last course before resorting to using both is to try to find a beefier spring and/or less worn pawl. As always Archuleta’s Reel Works is (just) one place to make inquiries about that.

The old Marquis reels (mentioned above) are notoriously inconsistent with respect to the strength of the mechanism. I’ve had the whole range from almost too stiff to use on the lightest setting, to too loose on the heaviest, and have jiggered, re-annealed and resorted to different springs on a pretty large fraction of the old beat up ones I have bought. I’ve had a lot more consistent results with the hardy lightweight models.
MHC likes this.

“Gravity is a harsh mistress!”, The Tick
Botsari is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Spey Pages forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in













Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome