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nehalem river/salmonberry questions

I've been trying to dig around on the net for info on these rivers. I fish the north fork nehalem a lot and the main stem. But I've not floated the main stem. I know not to even think about floating the north fork. I've heard about the beaverslide and all that. But how easy or difficult is the actual float on the main stem from beaverslide to roy creek? And for the salmonberry, how do I get to that one to fish on foot, and is there swing water in it? I appreciate any help or info anyone has to offer. Thanks
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I've been trying to dig around on the net for info on these rivers. I fish the north fork nehalem a lot and the main stem. But I've not floated the main stem. I know not to even think about floating the north fork. I've heard about the beaverslide and all that. But how easy or difficult is the actual float on the main stem from beaverslide to roy creek? And for the salmonberry, how do I get to that one to fish on foot, and is there swing water in it? I appreciate any help or info anyone has to offer. Thanks
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Get a good map, pull up Google Earth and take a 'visual walk.' Many of the rivers now have 'fly bys,' a total hoot for here on the Rogue. What you see is EXACTLY what you'll find 'boots on the ground.'

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I love using Google earth! I've been looking at the rivers on there, unfortunately for the salmonberry it's mostly shrouded in the trees and only sort of shows up. Now since I originally posted this I've found some more clues to help me out. The other thing is for the float, trying to scout it out on there seems like only part of the solution. It seems like the images were taken in the low flow season giving me sort of an idea how the ease or difficulty is. Hopefully more will chime in. I've heard in the past it's easy and that's it's tough in a db.
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Get a good map, pull up Google Earth and take a 'visual walk.' Many of the rivers now have 'fly bys,' a total hoot for here on the Rogue. What you see is EXACTLY what you'll find 'boots on the ground.'

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It dosen't always work like that. These are coastal rivers. Most of the google map pictures are from the summer when skys are clear (for pictures) and hence rivers are low. Also high winter flows can significantly change gravel bars & create log jams. You'd be risking you life to o based soley on those images.
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You're right ryan, that's why I'm hoping for someone with first hand knowledge to clue me in. Even being an experienced rower for as long as I've been doing it, I still don't just go float new rivers without learning about it first from someone. Not worth it, even on an easy float things can get dicey pretty quick. Like crazy direction changing hurricane like wind gusts on the deschutes............we made it out ok though lol, you had fun.
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Both of these poor rivers have gone to hell in recent years. It's a shame really. What's sad is I'm not old enough or been fishing long enough to have "the good old days" but they've really gone downhill with all sorts of traffic. I mean I have no more rights there than anyone else (it's a free country and mostly public property after all) but it's no longer being respected. I wouldn't call it the clackamas yet...but it seemed to be sliding that way last year.

To answer your questions though:
- If you float other coastal rivers such as the trask or the Wilson you'll probably be OK rowing here too. I'd never suggest it without having an experienced oarsman take you through the first time. You've got the launch point already figured out.
- The salmonberry can be swung but there's more pocket water which is better for nymphing. I've already complained enough here, but I really wish ODFW would just shut the salmonberry down 100% to angling. It's an exciting river to hike and watch steelhead pair up and get ready to spawn. And to take a nice camera to capture the action. But the more I've learned about the river and the remaining fish it holds, I think it just needs to be left alone. Sort of like playing tag when you're a kid...when you make it to home base you should be safe. These fish have made it home.
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Both of these poor rivers have gone to hell in recent years. It's a shame really. What's sad is I'm not old enough or been fishing long enough to have "the good old days" but they've really gone downhill with all sorts of traffic. I mean I have no more rights there than anyone else (it's a free country and mostly public property after all) but it's no longer being respected. I wouldn't call it the clackamas yet...but it seemed to be sliding that way last year.

To answer your questions though:
- If you float other coastal rivers such as the trask or the Wilson you'll probably be OK rowing here too. I'd never suggest it without having an experienced oarsman take you through the first time. You've got the launch point already figured out.
- The salmonberry can be swung but there's more pocket water which is better for nymphing. I've already complained enough here, but I really wish ODFW would just shut the salmonberry down 100% to angling. It's an exciting river to hike and watch steelhead pair up and get ready to spawn. And to take a nice camera to capture the action. But the more I've learned about the river and the remaining fish it holds, I think it just needs to be left alone. Sort of like playing tag when you're a kid...when you make it to home base you should be safe. These fish have made it home.

I second this. I fished It once and by the amount of spawning activity I saw, your fishing in the bedroom. I never went back.
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Both of these poor rivers have gone to hell in recent years. It's a shame really. I really wish ODFW would just shut the salmonberry down 100% .
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I hiked and camped the Salmonberry last March and watched the Steelhead pair up and spawn. Beautiful really, other than maybe dry fly for Cutthroat, I also think it should be closed for Steelhead. I fish the confluence now and then and I've seen too many gear guys heading up the Salmonberry with treble hooks and eggs to drag the fish right out of their spawning beds. That and throw their beer cans on the ground.
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I've been trying to dig around on the net for info on these rivers. I fish the north fork nehalem a lot and the main stem. But I've not floated the main stem. I know not to even think about floating the north fork. I've heard about the beaverslide and all that. But how easy or difficult is the actual float on the main stem from beaverslide to roy creek? And for the salmonberry, how do I get to that one to fish on foot, and is there swing water in it? I appreciate any help or info anyone has to offer. Thanks
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The Nehalem blows out easily and for a long time. There are a few drops/falls that are tough to pass. You should definitely scout it at different flows to know what you can handle and which flows are fishable, both in terms of water clarity and floating. The Salmonberry is not very swing-able. The run on the Salmonberry was thought to be lost after the big slide years back, so it is a pretty small return from what information I have gathered. And, as others have said, it is a spawning bed for them.
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