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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 05-17-2020, 08:45 AM Thread Starter
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Looking for a Danielsson 3w or other old models

I am trying to complete a setup for a micro spey. trying to find a large arbour reel that is light. I am finding that when you get a fish on with the micro spey they run at you and it is really hard to keep up with a smaller reel. Let me know what you have kicking around. Preferably Canadian to save on shipping and the dollar.

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Believe for your application the Sz 3 (not 'W') would be better. Same diameter, approximate 4.25, but with a narrower drum. Lighter but still plenty capacity and identical retrieve ratio.

Sage 709 Danielsson built reel is a twin to Loop / Dani Sz 3

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Thanks guys. I am looking for one of the original ones. I dig the funky look of it. It looks like you can buy them new from the factory but I thought I would check to see if anyone had one first. The micro spey is a hoot but hard to get line back on that tiny reel when they run at you.
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The new Originals are still a great deal direct from the factory. They don't charge VAT or customs fees and they ship quickly. I love mine.
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I have heard that. I will go that route if nothing else shakes loose here.

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The new Originals are still a great deal direct from the factory. They don't charge VAT or customs fees and they ship quickly. I love mine.
“The New Originals” was mentioned as one of the early, pre-Spinal Tap bands.

But seriously, on the outside chance this part isn’t already clear, those reels don’t have a drag per se, just a very light anti-overrun protection. I agree they are super cool if the idea of controlling everything with your hand appeals. I have a “dry fly” and I’m never getting rid of it.

Im with uncle Stu here - I think you will have a hard time finding even a well-used one of these that is cheaper than what they are offering online right now!
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“The New Originals” was mentioned as one of the early, pre-Spinal Tap bands.

But seriously, on the outside chance this part isn’t already clear, those reels don’t have a drag per se, just a very light anti-overrun protection. I agree they are super cool if the idea of controlling everything with your hand appeals. I have a “dry fly” and I’m never getting rid of it.

Im with uncle Stu here - I think you will have a hard time finding even a well-used one of these that is cheaper than what they are offering online right now!
Hello.. Please note that the original "Original" do not have anything like a drag, but the current have. Look at the reel from the winding side, there´s a nut in the middle of the centre triangle. You use that to preload the rollers, or to change drums. However, if you preload the rollers, don´t forget to reduce the pressure at the end of the day or the rollers will have a slightly flat spot, makes your retrieve go "ka-ka-ka-ka". Rookie signal... Yours borano20
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Yes, that is exactly what I meant by NO drag. I have one of these reels - a recent model. The roller tension, while adjustable, is not meant to be used as main drag, and is of course the same is either direction. This will be very unsatisfactory to most people if they are expecting this to be a “drag setting”. However works lovely under light tension with your hand providing the real uni-directional pressure on the fish. Just know what you are actually signing up for in this case if you order one based on its cool looks alone. If this still isn’t super clear perhaps look for a video or something before you buy. I can’t say enough good about them, but they are not for everyone, and there have even been a few people posting here that complained about them not being what they expected. Probably people in Europe already know them well.

But I agree about not leaving them clamped down. Its even in the instructions -the rubber will get deformed over time. A very undesirable conversion into some kind of hell-spawned version of a clicker.
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I use the Danielsson Original exclusively on all my TroutSpey rods for year round fishing and the 3W for 12‘6/13‘ rods, up to 13‘7 in 8/9 and occasionally on 9/10.
But the 3W is way too much for any of the TroutSpey rods, at least mine. And I use uplocking reel seats only, because of rod balance.
Take a look at the 2W version.
I never had problems with lack of speed with trouts on. I also use the 2W for salmon and seatrout fishing. It happens occasionally with a fresh run seatrout or salmon, to be in need for lifting the rod high up and back or stepping back while reeling in as fast as possible. If so with trouts, I would prefer to do the same or take line in with a fast grip to the line here or then to keep in contact and have a balanced outfit for the most trouts and weeks between.

It’s right what already has been said here - it’s no drag/break, just resistance to avoid overrun. Palming is necessary (...the joy...).
The Danielsson Original offers the same resistance forwards as backwards. If one hates a reel with a spool turning in line cast for cast, he will love this concept and the Precision ! Not that unimportant, especially in presentation orientated approaches and TroutSpey.

As said by others, I wouldn’t look around. Just make an order. There is no better offer in relation of price and quality and the best after sales service I know for decades.

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Thanks, for the information everyone. I will take a closer look at the 2w as well.
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Zencaster, I suppose it depends on what you are comparing things to, but there are large arbors and super large arbors like the danielssons. Most modern inexpensive fly reels fall into the former category. Usually if uptake speed is the main issue these are great solutions. But I know the feeling you are talking about. I have a Hardy LRH from the lightweight series (next size down from a Princess). It is a nice reel on my SH 5wt. Unfortunately not only uptake speed but the tendency for the line to get pretty curly before stretching can be a real bummer at times.

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I hear you Botsari. The rod that I am thinking fo this for I have the smallest Hardy Cascapeida on it. You have to wind like crazy to get it in fast. I love the reel but it is useless for the situation I am fishing. Nothing wrong with adding another reel to the collection.

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Thanks guys. I am looking for one of the original ones. I dig the funky look of it.
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As far as I know 'Sage' was first to offer these unique reels in North America. The "Originals" came in Sage 705 (Loop / Danielsson 1.5) Sage 707 (Loop / Danielsson 2) Sage 709 (Loop / Danielsson 3) and Sage 711 (Loop / Danielsson 4) All identical and interchangeable regardless of name.

The "W" (yes, "wide") versions came along later.. after Loop took over the sales of these fine built reels.

I only mention because still feel strongly that the Sage 709 or Loop 3 would be a better choice than a 3W ..Provided one could be found. Same diameter as 3W but with narrower spool. They do turn up yet, more often than a guy might think.

As for other options, the Loop "Speed Runner" (NOT Danielsson built) comes to mind. Super large diameter ..but quite narrow spool. These are a drag reel rather than only the friction adjust. Smolt had one on a Loop Blue line 7116 and landed quite a few nice bright ones on it. They are quite physically light, put's one in mind of a modern road racing bicycle wheel and tire.. tall and narrow.

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In US, Sage may have been first, but Loop was available and promoted for Bonefish and Steelhead in the 90s (I found Loop first). These tSage variants are not compatible with Danielsson-Loop, as the small differences in the spool prevents cross-over. (I learnt the hard way).

I started with Loop 3W in the mid to late 1990s after I was schooled by some steelhead on retrieve speed. I like the tension knob is on the same side as the handle (or no weird a$%! hand flipping to adjust), and I really like the ability to palm the reel.

I still have and use that same 3W on my Scott ARC 10' 7wt and also use the 2W for trout-small river conditions.

I no longer use the "original" Danielsson on Bonefish - Nautilus NV-G or a Danielsson drag reel.

On ACR 1173 has a Hardy St Aiden, but if I am bank casting SH Spey you will see the Scott ARC 7wt with the Loop 3W.

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