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post #16 of 21 (permalink) Old 05-23-2020, 09:06 AM
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In US, Sage may have been first, but Loop was available and promoted for Bonefish and Steelhead in the 90s (I found Loop first). These tSage variants are not compatible with Danielsson-Loop, as the small differences in the spool prevents cross-over. (I learnt the hard way).

I started with Loop 3W in the mid to late 1990s after I was schooled by some steelhead on retrieve speed. I like the tension knob is on the same side as the handle (or no weird a$%! hand flipping to adjust), and I really like the ability to palm the reel.

I still have and use that same 3W on my Scott ARC 10' 7wt and also use the 2W for trout-small river conditions.

I no longer use the "original" Danielsson on Bonefish - Nautilus NV-G or a Danielsson drag reel.

On ACR 1173 has a Hardy St Aiden, but if I am bank casting SH Spey you will see the Scott ARC 7wt with the Loop 3W.

Danielsson is a first class act.

Same here.
I have my first Danielsson Original reels since the early 90s, when there was Loop written on it. This was the time when we had to pay at least double price for those reels...
Still have a Loop 3W and two of the Loop 2 (narrow reel, but same diameter as the 2W). The 2 is no longer made and I still use them for TroutSpey rods, also the 2W.
The very first Loop, made of Danielsson had screws to change tension. No possibility to change resistance while fishing (at least without a screw driver).

The new style Danielsson Original are made with a smaller frame, more holes in all parts and are even less in weight. The 2W is around the same weight as the older Loop 2).

I did never use my Originals for saltwater fishing, because of its open ball bearings. But all of my Originals are heavily used.
New plastic runners after 20 years and they are smooth again as new. Just send a letter to Thomas Danielsson. First class service for centuries.

Because of the annoying hand flipping to adjust tension you talk about, I also have to agree.
Additional to the said in my first post this is another reason I dont use anything else than Danielsson Original and Control reels. The technical benefits, the thoughts behind it and the quality is simply unsurpassed in this price category.
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post #17 of 21 (permalink) Old 05-23-2020, 09:07 PM
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Wetwader,

Yes, the service from Danielsson has been great. A few years ago, I bought an additional spool (might be for the 2W or 3W, forget which). Sent Danielsson some pictures, and they confirm I would have no issue with a new spool for the 90's purchased reels. I think last year, I did replace one roller, but this would be after 20 years of service.

I have thought about adding an original Midge for my short fiberglass 3wt,

David

ps .. I have LW, HD and original, but I thought of control to eliminate the hand flipping adjust in the salt. I was not to sure I was up to adjust to their mechanism, as when in a fight, you need to change without thinking.

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Wetwader,

Yes, the service from Danielsson has been great. A few years ago, I bout an additional spool (might be for the 2W or 3W, forget which). Sent Danielsson some pictures, and they confirm I would have no issue with a new spool for the 90's purchased reels. I think last year, I did replace one roller, but this would be after 20 years of service.

I have thought about adding an original Midge for my short fiberglass 3wt,

David

ps .. I have LW, HD and original, but I thought of control to eliminate the hand flipping adjust in the salt. I was not to sure I was up to adjust to their mechanism, as when in a fight, you need to change without thinking.
Hi David,
I can highly recommend a Control. I use the Control 7twelve and 8thirteen for salmon fishing (Atlantics) and hucho hucho in my home rivers.
They are absolutely intuitive in handling and in fighting big/fast fishes. The antireverse system is technically the best to get and genius in function. And the drag/break knob is on the handle side...
Really everything in control. Full concentration for the fish on.

My Midge and Nymph get the least use out of my Originals after my transformation to a 99% Doublehander many years ago.
But if coming into a hatch while swinging, I take out the 6piece SH rod in my backpack with an Original Dryfly on... In the middle of a hatch, there are fish coming up surprisingly near by - after one covered refusing fish further out. Very different line management, compared to swinging.
Mostly (at least for my fishing) a lot of line is off the reel in such situations and after a hook up a fast retrieve of the excessive line with the bigger Dryfly is a benefit.

Sorry for coming off topic a little bit. Its still about Danielsson reels...

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post #19 of 21 (permalink) Old 05-24-2020, 07:30 PM
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Zencaster, apologies for the off topic banter. On the positive side it's keeping your listing bumped to the top

As a two plus decades fan of the Danielsson built 'Traditional' series reels I've learned a few things and feel they should be put out there for other potential owner / users that may have questions. Any mistake or misinformation on my part begs correction. I believe in true accurate information.. anything else is worse than useless.

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In US, Sage may have been first, but Loop was available and promoted for Bonefish and Steelhead in the 90s (I found Loop first). These Sage variants are not compatible with Danielsson-Loop, as the small differences in the spool prevents cross-over. (I learnt the hard way).

Danielsson is a first class act.
raspberry-patch, good to hear from you.. always enjoy your postings.

As to the cross-over of Sage versions fitting Loop frames correctly, that would be yes ..and no. It is an important point that should be made, thanks for bringing it up. It seems prudent to do so here now.

The early production runs definitely do interchange (between Sage and Loop badged Danielssons) I've never had any issue with Sage spools (sporting twin crank handles) 705 - 707 - 709 fitting my Loop straight line script badged 1.5 - 2 - 3 frames, or vice versa (have never had a Sage 711) However, the later Loop and Danielsson logoed frames have subtle difference with an increase of the exposed spool rim depth. The early production Sage and Loop straight line script spools DO NOT interchange with latter production curved script frames. Later production spools will fit the early frames though. I was first made aware of this by Dave Pinczkowski at a mid 2000 era Spey Clave on the Muskeegon River. Have been hoping maybe Jim Williams (JR Spey and Just Reels.com) could weigh in here as well as he was a Loop dealer into the 2000's and very familiar with this topic.

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This is great info on the reel. Thanks everyone. I will be ordering one soon.

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post #21 of 21 (permalink) Old 05-24-2020, 08:19 PM
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Later Loop 'Curved' script 3W and Early Loop 3 'Straight Line' script.

Using the early Loop 3 (Sage 709) here to illustrate same diameter with narrower spool attributes. Less capacity but physically lighter.. same retrieve ratio.



You can see the spool rim differences from latter and early here (if definition is high enough, might be lost in conversion) Sz 3 on right.



Another attempt to illustrate the spool rim difference in depth. Also, note the crank handles. Many earlier Danielsson builds have the 'flat' crank. These spools are both 3W .. On left is a 'latter' version with round crank, on right is an early with flat crank.

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