WTT: Trade my Caps Salmon for your Hardy 'The Zenith'. - Spey Pages
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WTT: Trade my Caps Salmon for your Hardy 'The Zenith'.

WTT: Trade my Caps Salmon for your Hardy Zenith.

Dia: 4 1/8"
Spool Width: 1"
Colour: Grey/Blue
Weight: 8.5 oz

If you've got one and are willing to trade it for this beauty, let me know.
















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I love the clean look and the lightly brushed finish! If I had a Zenith gathering dust...

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I love the clean look and the lightly brushed finish! If I had a Zenith gathering dust...
Oh yeah, very pretty! Kind of low weight for its size but nice. I’m a big fan of not having the company logos right in your face the way many reels have them, like a free billboard, and this one is classy in that regard.

I know I’m a dreamer, but if only there was some kind of “token”, instead of a zenith, you could send him that in turn could be used by the seller acquire a zenith from someone else, thus lubricating this incredibly specific trade offer.
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What size Zenith you after? I think I have a 3 3/4 in the wood shed.

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If you have one that is it - only one size.

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I found it but now I have some serious second thoughts. Forgot how strong and loud those double clicker are!

Is that Caps Reel a center pin? Not much info on the web.

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Not a centre-pin, fly reel featured made in the Far East. There was a slight 'stir' about these reels on Clarks bamboo forum a few years ago , until production ceased.

Hardy reels would have one pawl engaged, another as a spare, none had both pawls engaged, unless the owner decided it so...

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The rivet positions shown in the photo suggest this is a "one engaged" and a spare too far out of position to ever be engaged. It should sound a lot like the older St. Johns--nice and throaty, with a slower cadence to the click.


EDIT: I didn't look close enough at all the pics--this may use the more modern pawl placement that would allow either or both pawls to be engaged. My "old" (1954) St. John only had one pawl in engageable position. The other (the spare) was remote. The newer St Johns (1970-ish) had the ability to engage either pawn. I'm very sorry if this post causes any confusion.
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This is what mine looks like I have seen others that have a spare but no way of engaging it.

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This is what mine looks like I have seen others that have a spare but no way of engaging it.

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Normally only one is supposed to be engaged on those style hardy reels, and the other off. When only one is engaged it is a bit smoother and quieter in the intended retrieve direction than in the outgoing direction. Flip both for going the other direction. But since there can be a lot of variation of the “drag” depending on the springs sometimes people engage both to get more drag if they feel they need it. But then the clicker will be then be the same going either direction.

It would be cool to see a picture of internal mechanism of the caps reel. Do you have to use a screwdriver or can you remove the spool by hand?
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Your photo shows the "modern" iteration of Hardy pawl placement. Looking closely at the 3rd photo in the series above and given the apparent symmetry of rivet spacing, I'm betting it is the same as yours, with both springs sharing a common "driver" thus allowing for LHW or RHW. As Botsari says, a photo of the internals of the Caps reel would settle the issue.

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Apologies for the late response. I was on the road. The reel is in fact a fly reel and not a centrepin. Either lhw or rhw can be employed as with most twin pawl configurations.



For those interested, I would let it go for $200usd. I can find a Zenith close to this price on the auction site. Btw, I’m typing this on my phone, so if the picture doesn’t show I can email it to those interested. My home desktop computer is currently down, argh.

I actually love Caps reels and will regret breaking up the family. It’s just that this large one doesn’t get much use:

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Apologies for the late response. I was on the road. The reel is in fact a fly reel and not a centrepin. Either lhw or rhw can be employed as with most twin pawl configurations.

https://flic.kr/p/2eSro3k

For those interested, I would let it go for $200usd. I can find a Zenith close to this price on the auction site. Btw, I’m typing this on my phone, so if the picture doesn’t show I can email it to those interested. My home desktop computer is currently down, argh.
On the contrary, apologies to you for semi-hijacking the thread out of curiosity. With the single row of holes your reel really does have a St. John/st George vibe to it. Never seen one of those before is my only excuse.

I was looking for a zenith recently and got one for that price from Gary Anderson, the rod builder. You could try him too.
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On the contrary, apologies to you for semi-hijacking the thread out of curiosity. With the single row of holes your reel really does have a St. John/st George vibe to it. Never seen one of those before is my only excuse.



I was looking for a zenith recently and got one for that price from Gary Anderson, the rod builder. You could try him too.


They definitely pay tribute to the St.George and JW Young’s Pattern 1. See revised post above as I added another image of the others. The two smallest ones (white handles), do not have rim regulators and employ calipers.
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