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Hardy Perfect 3 7/8

hardy perfect in wonderful condition, functions flawlessly. This reel is certainly fishable or just add it to your collection. Comes with hardy reel case, backing, and running line. Asking 300$ shipped. Paypal preferred. Thanks for looking. I hope this reel finds a nice new home! This is before the taupo. Not a wide spool reel was made, post 1950 , when the 'straight line logo' came into being. Leaded finish + straight line logo reels references a post 1950 or thereabouts reel.

Reference should be be made to Drewetts book regarding introduction of straight line logo Hardy reels, regarding dates.
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'Z' denotes recycled materials? Could you explain further. Thanks.

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Malcom- from what i understand all aluminum during that time was dedicated to WWII efforts, making it difficult for reel manufacturers to purchase or find materials to produce reels. The Z stamp only means that this reel was made during that time, when most hardy reels were made from aluminum that was previously a german aircraft pistol or something similar. Same grade aluminum as any other reel before or after the war until recent years. Its not made out of recycled soda cans.

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With respect, your reel was made, post 1950 , when the 'straight line logo' came into being. Leaded finish + straight line logo reels references a post 1950 or thereabouts reel. Reels made from 'German aircraft pistols' ( which would have fallen into British hands)… would be,I suggest, makes for a a very fanciful story..

Reference should be be made to Drewetts book regarding introduction of straight line logo Hardy reels, regarding dates. In any case, I also have a similar contracted Perfect 3 7/8" made by Jim Hardy, whom sent me a hand written letter saying that he 'finished' the reel during his time in the reel shop during 1950.

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With respect, your reel was made, post 1950 , when the 'straight line logo' came into being. Leaded finish + straight line logo reels references a post 1950 or thereabouts reel. Reels made from 'German aircraft pistols' ( which would have fallen into British hands)Ö would be,I suggest, makes for a a very fanciful story..

Reference should be be made to Drewetts book regarding introduction of straight line logo Hardy reels, regarding dates. In any case, I also have a similar contracted Perfect 3 7/8" made by Jim Hardy, whom sent me a hand written letter saying that he 'finished' the reel during his time in the reel shop during 1950.

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I have reason to counter this. I'm no expert but I owned a 4" uniqua made by Thomas Appleby (TA) who worked for harsy 1920-1947.
Straight line logo, leaded finish.
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Well whatever the heck it's made from, it's still one damn fine mofoe of a reel. I wish I were still a gear whore. If I were, I'd buy that be-otch right away and take her swinging thru the camp water on the North Umpqua, or the Meat Bucket pool on the Grande Ronde, or Maynard's Tailout on the Salmon. I'm there right now; thanks for putting me there in the zone.....

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Malcom~
Thank you very much for the information, I am certainly no expert on these reels!

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Malcom~ what's with the Z stamp?

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Hi, more correctly I should have mentioned that the straight line Hardy logo seems to have come along 'around' 1950 rather than after, so previous poster correct on this.

Makers or rather 'finisher' initials were on the inside of the winding plates (usually by the handle) of the Perfects. Very early Perfects usually have numbers and single letters inside the frame and winding plate, rather than finisher initials. They were called finishers rather than makers as they would collect parts from the stores, made by others then assemble the reels in small batches on their bench. Sequence reference would be needed so that reel parts would match.

I suspect the Z in your reel could have been a sequence letter , does it appear on the inside of the winding plate as well? I have a 30's St. George with a single 'F' on the back of the drum, nowhere else. 'F' does not feature in any lists of finishers names that I have seen.

My Perfect 3 7/8" of same vintage (straight line logo plus leading, which was soon replaced by the usual 50's grey paint) has JH inside plate (Jim Hardy) and '56' repeated inside the frame and also inside the winding plate.

After I sent photos of the boxed Perfect, in the picture below with his initials stamped inside, Jim Hardy wrote to me that when he started with the firm at the age of 21 (in 1950) he spent time in the various 'shops', while in the reel shop he made three Perfects.

I am lucky to own two of the three, how that came about is a 'flucky' story in itself.

Jim Hardy asked his uncle L R Hardy if he could keep the first reel that he made and his uncle agreed, but sent him the bill for it.. I suspect that it could be the other Perfect of the three. His family may still own it . He also made three Altex spinning reels he told me, but I gather that he was formost a fly fisherman so would have kept the Perfect.

Only other letters in reels I know of having any other relevence are 'D' for Duralumin metal and 'H' for Hiduminium metal, sometimes seen in various Hardy fly reels plus their Silex models made for export and used in salt water as they resisted corrosion.

Here are my two Jim Hardy made contracted Perfects of similar vintage as the reel in question here. The 3 7/8" on the right, the other is mint/boxed, lacquer and leading all intact, unused, 3 5/8" . I like to think the third Perfect would be either a 3 1/8" or possibly a 4" to make the set. Sadly Jim Hardy is no longer with us to ask.

The price asked for the reel for sale here is, I would say, more than fair. Good luck with it.

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Hardy Perfect 3 7/8

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