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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 05-07-2005, 11:11 AM Thread Starter
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First of all I didnt do my homework and had no idea that the "flies" in this book were computer enhanced images. I probably still would have bought it but honestly I felt a little cheated when it arrived and i started into it. I got a hollow feeling looking at each image which was a total 180deg from pouring through Sheweys "Spey flies & Dee flies" where it could take many minutes to study one pattern. The Akroyd on pg 49 by Anthony Smith is one such fly that requires a long look as is Shewey's Lady Caroline on pg87
While Mann and Gillespie put together a fine book in its own right, I couldnt help thinking how much "better" this could have been with actual flies.
On the plus side for me there are hundreds of cool patterns to try and some crazy ideas that will see water this coming season. I am sure that an immense amount of work and research went into this book and I am not knocking it, actually i think it is a very nice book. I just wanted to express my disapointment in the fact that these are really drawings and i couldnt really get a "feel" the way i can with a picture of an hand tied pattern. Just my $0.02 on the book.
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I totally agree that the lack of pictures is a disappointment. It's the reason I passed on the book. I just didn't find the illustrations all that inspiring, like the photos did in Shewey's book. I think I'll throw my money into Veverka's pocket on my next book purchase
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tataly agree.when saw the book in person ,I was left flat and my respnse was;no way am I buying this after owning Shewey"s!!!I love some of Veverka,s paterns from Trey's book!Beau
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you hit the nail on the head!

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I disagree completely with your assesment of this fine addition the the fly tyer's reference books. It was not done as a treatise on how to tie the flies, nor as a photographic compendium of the flies. Its stated purpose was to put into a single reference for those who have some fly tying skill many of the patterns developed to imitate shrimps over the last 150 years. And as such, it has done a remarkable job of presenting all the various styles of flies developed to do so, along with the dressings for each of the ones mentioned in the text.

It is not a book for the new tyer or for those inexperienced in more advanced tyiing techniques because it doesn't offer any tying instruction at all. However, for those who are advanced tyers or those looking for a superb compendium of all the various shrimp style flies that have been developed, it is in a class by itself. Just be forewarned, it is not a tying manual.
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Not sure how much of an assessment i did on this book, more a response to a book that i assumed would have hand tied examples. it was an ebay purchase and I admitted that i didnt know the format or content. As it stands this is indeed a fine effort and in its own right is a very nice book. I never knocked it,, quite the opposite, it will serve me well in the years to come and as an Atlantic Salmon fisherman i can greatly appreciate the effort from Mann and Gillespie to research the shrimp patterns included.
If you re-read my original post you will see clearly my point is a comparison between an actual hand tied fly and one assembled on a computer screen and the feeling I got from looking at each. Thats all.
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I have this book and it was a good referance ... lots of history ... however I have to admit I like detailed photos of real flies ... not drawings. I somehow feel part of the beauty of the fly is lost. The drawings are well done, but drawings look flat and dead compared to the real thing.

Just got two other books ... I have only flicked through them ...

First one is "Hairwing and Tube Flies for Slamon and Steelhead" by Chris Mann, again the flies are drawings ... I haven't even read it and I feel disapointed. I am sure it will be a good referance too, but the beauty of the flies is missing.

Second book is "Tying Classic Freshwater Streamers" by David Klausmeyer ... beautiful detailed photos of beautiful flies ... I like this book already!

I look forward to reading both of these book ... but photos win.

That my two cents worth ...
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..........Steve (Isgrigg) I'm with you all the way on this. We don't show fish drawings, and I don't want to see drawings. I was going to buy this book, but when I saw there were no real fllys, only drawings, I didn't. Shewey's book got my vote and my money.
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