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Help with Delta Spey please

Bought a Delta Spey 7/8 for a B2X recently with the hope that I would be better able to mend line than I am with a Skagit, or Scandi line, and just gave it a try last week. Total disaster! I am clearly not rigging it properly.

First, I believe that using it with a sink tip is clearly not a good idea. Not enough mass in the line to get the tip on the surface, and the fly was not big and heavy. I had a Light MOW tip, with 2.5ft of T-8 and about 4 feet of 15lb tippet. I assume that the Delta Spey should be used with floating tips, is that correct?

Second, I assume that the Delta Spey is more of a Touch and Go line, but not being able to get the fly up made it impossible to try. Is that correct?

Hope to give it another try this week, but any tips may shorten the learning curve a bit, and are much appreciated.

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First things first:
If it's a 7/8 Delta one-piece floating line, you're right--it's not meant to add (ordinary/heavy=95 grain) sink tips to (unless and until it is cut and looped).

If it is a multi-tip delta 7/8, it will have a "driver" of around 38 feet and interchangeable tips (around 13 feet?).

Secondly, it can be cast in sustained anchor, "traditional spey", or touch and go mode quite well.

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My notes on that...

I went to the compact scandi. But,,,,you can use an airflow sinking polyleader on it...and use lighter flies and it will fish very well. IMHO it just wasnt enough fun compared to your next best alternative..
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First things first:
If it's a 7/8 Delta one-piece floating line, you're right--it's not meant to add (ordinary/heavy=95 grain) sink tips to (unless and until it is cut and looped).

If it is a multi-tip delta 7/8, it will have a "driver" of around 38 feet and interchangeable tips (around 13 feet?).

Secondly, it can be cast in sustained anchor, "traditional spey", or touch and go mode quite well.
This. The multi tip has up to a type 6 tip, but the line is looped for tips as Yoda said.

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Delta Spey with Winston B2X

I have the Winston 13'3" 7/8 B2X and use the Delta Spey 7/8 with tips. I bought a standard Delta Spey and cut the tip at 13', placing loops on the the tip and the main line. The combination is fine with the original floating tip looped onto the main line when I want a complete floating setup with a 10' intermediate polyleader. Using RIO 8 weight sinking tips with a 3' leader of 10# Maxima, the line was still casting with ease. The casts were mostly single and double spey.

The reason I mentioned cutting the line and using it in a greased line mode was to tell you that this method actually worked for me. I know it is difficult to cut a new line and put loops on the end, but it becomes very functional after you take the step. Also, I have noticed no difference in the casting performance when compared to my uncut Delta Spey 7/8.

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this line is billed as being the Skagit-like line that can be mended. The Delta spey line is mid-belly line, tips or a full line. However, some folks say that a multi-tip mid-belly can be fished like a skagit if you leave the tip off and attach a tip of T-material to the line. I've not tried this, but it supposedly works.

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this line is billed as being the Skagit-like line that can be mended. The Delta spey line is mid-belly line, tips or a full line. However, some folks say that a multi-tip mid-belly can be fished like a skagit if you leave the tip off and attach a tip of T-material to the line. I've not tried this, but it supposedly works.
It works alot easier with heavier Delta's, 7/8 is about the lightest possible. I've thrown 10' of T-10 on a 7/8 delta but that's about as far as you can go weight wise. The full floaters are not designed to throw any type of sinking tip off the end (must cut back as noted above, 13' on the 7/8) or use a muti-tip version. Sadly it is gone for good and I'm disappointed to hear the Delta II is different, doubt I'll like it as well.
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