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looking for different knots for tube flies and nymph patterns

hello im looking for some different knots for rigging my tube flies and nymphs to my leaders. know a few just not sure im getting the right action with the fly thanks.
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knots

You did not say which ones you are using.
For all wets or submerged flies my personal preference is a non slip loop knot.
It might not be the strongest knot but I believe it allows the fly to move a lot more than knots that are cinched tight on the eye.
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loop knot

I'm with Blue Dun on using the loop knot. I've been tying the double surgeon's loop lately but not sure how it stacks up for strength. With smaller flies it's fairly easy.
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for tube flies an improved clinch; there wont be any dangling accomplished with a tube. for all others, as stated, the lefty's loop works for me.

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For hooked flies, I use the non-slip loop or the Trilene knot.

For tubes, it depends whether junction tube is used or not.

With junction tube, where the hook is pulled into the junction tube, I use the Trilene knot.

If the rear end of the plastic tube is large enough to take the eye of the hook, junction tubing is not necessary, and a Trilene knot is used again.

Where junction tubing is not used, it depends on the length of the tube vs. the wing/overall fly length, and whether the hook is to be placed right at the rear of the tube (a Trilene knot is used where I don't want much free-swinging of the hook, and as small as possible non-slip loop if I want some free swinging of the hook); where I want the hook further back, I use a loop of leader usually made with a double surgeon's knot and slip the loop of leader through the eye of the hook as you would for a stinger set-up for an intruder. I don't use the 'jam the knot into the rear of the tube' method to hold this loop out to the correct length, but prior to tying the loop in the leader, I run a bead or two over the leader at the rear of the tube, and then when the double surgeon's loop is made, the bead prevents the knot being pulled into the rear of the tube, and holds the loop (and the later-attached hook) out to the correct/desired length in relation to the wing/tail of the fly.


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All I've ever used is a 5 or 6 wrap regular old clinch knot. Have had excellent results with this for 25 years.



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Double surgeons loop

Double surgeon's loop. I don't know if it makes a difference but I have a friend who started using it and swears it catches more fish than a direct connection. I heard the non-slip mono is stronger but I can't ever change over because I can tie the ds loop in my sleep and it's such a fast and reliable tie for me.
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Double turl for a straight connection or a perfection loop for a looped connection to the fly.
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Non-slip mono loop for non-junction tube applications.

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I agree the clinch is a good one although the Orvis or Baker knot is just as good but I think it's harder to tie with cold hands or in big wind.
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Hi there. First post here after some time looking.
Fishing tube flies in India recently they used what they called a Mahseer knot to attach the hook before seating it in the soft plastic sleeve which they'd fix to the tube.
heres a link to the knot they used. I suspect it has some other names. Hope it helps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5ib7xEl1XY

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Hi there. First post here after some time looking.
Fishing tube flies in India recently they used what they called a Mahseer knot to attach the hook before seating it in the soft plastic sleeve which they'd fix to the tube.
heres a link to the knot they used. I suspect it has some other names. Hope it helps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5ib7xEl1XY

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That is the same knot I use to snell hooks when trolling for salmon in Puget Sound. Use the same for Halibut rigs. Never had it fail but it wont work for a fly. You could use it for a tube fly though.
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A Snell knot against a thread bumper...

Looks like a Snell knot tied against a thread bumper on the hook shank. I goggled mahseer knot and saw another quite different knot that looks like an "improved" trilene knot.
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Uni knot for tubes. that don't need extension (sometimes I want hooks to dangle), otherwise, Kreh Loop knot. Or a turtle knot for those hook things that some people use.
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