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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 08-12-2013, 04:51 AM Thread Starter
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Inexpensive reel for the Echo King 13' 10wt

Hi guys,

I just purchased my first DH rod for my next year trip to Siberia and am currently looking for an inexpensive reel. I have never casted a DH rod before. I was told I'll need to use Skagit lines and a variety of tips. Here is my question: will I be able to fit all the running line, shooting head and some backing on the Lamson Konic/Guru 4? If not, could you recommend any other inexpensive but fairly good reels that will match my rod?

I will appreciate any pointers!

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You don't want a cheapo

If you are going to Siberia, take along not one, but two of the very best reels you could afford. Its a trip of a lifetime and you don't need your gear to fail you. You might even consider doing some preventive maintenance. For example, one day the handle on my reel came off (while fighting a fish!!). Threads were buggered such that it was irreparable in the field and my day was done. I have since remedied this by carefully placing a drop of Loctite on the inner side of the threaded hole in the reel. I would recommend you do the same. Be sure to have a screwdriver that fits the screws on your reel. Learn how it works so you might be able to repair it afield.

Depending on the rod you purchased you will need a reel designed for 8 to 10 wt rods. For Siberia, my choice would be to bring two identical reels with a sealed drag. As regards lines, if you are a duffer, take an hour's lesson using a Skagit head (not body, head). One could have two or three heads for a single reel. While I hesitate to suggest it, my faves in the inexpensive but very good reel department are Lamson reels - a Lamson Radius 3 or 3.5 would be just the ticket. I believe Lamson discontinued the Radius, but you might find them on ebay.

Siberia - the very name elicits cold war images of gulags and missile batteries. Huge area, mostly undeveloped. The fishing is likely to be stunning. I'd bet you'll have an amazing time. Good luck.
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While they are great reels the Radius 3 (3.17"X1.05") or 3.5 (3.5"X1.20") are not big enough for a 10wt Echo King rod.

An Echo Ion 8/10 will hold 125yds of 30# Dacron backing and the running line and skagit head that matches that rod. If you are going for big fish and need a goodly amount of backing the Echo Ion 10/12 would be a much better choice. You should be able to get about 225/250yds of 30# Dacron on the 10/12 with the running line/skagit head for that rod.

The Konic is also a great reel as is the Guru. The Guru will work but the Guru HD will be better. I'd say the Konic was a bit small.

In the under $300.00 price point the Ross CLA 6 would be outstanding.

I do agree that taking a backup or even 2 backup reels is very good advice if the fishing you'll be doing is for the big boys.

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CLA all the way, low maintenance and low cost. Not much to go wrong and they get sh!T beat daily by many guides
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Pretty happy with my Pfleuger Trion. Used in the salt in Hawaii, came through no problems.
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Would have to second the recommendation of the Trion.The 1912 weighs 9.5 oz and I have used several for the past 4 or 5 years - no problems.Have also used the Echo Ion 8/10 for over a year with no issues,both $100.00 reels
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Hi guys,

I just purchased my first DH rod for my next year trip to Siberia and am currently looking for an inexpensive reel. I have never casted a DH rod before. I was told I'll need to use Skagit lines and a variety of tips. Here is my question: will I be able to fit all the running line, shooting head and some backing on the Lamson Konic/Guru 4? If not, could you recommend any other inexpensive but fairly good reels that will match my rod?

I will appreciate any pointers!

Tight lines,
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Fishing Siberia should be outragious. Are you fishing Kamchataka for steelhead or some river flowing into the Arctic Ocean for something else? The Echo King rods are sweet. You'll probably want the 10/12 Echo Ion, for $100 you can't find a cheaper reel and two of them would be ideal. We all like pretty reels but in reality the reel only holds your line and slows down the fish which can also be done with fingers. I'd be more concerned with finding fish than worring about the reel, two reels and two rods are good ideas though.
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Thank you for all the pointers. I think I've decided on the reel. Echo suggests Airflo Skagit head 750gr for the Echo King 10wt. How long and how heavy should the tips be? I'll have to cast flies up to 7'' long since I'll be fishing for taimen in a very remote river in the Far East of Russia.
Also, will the RIO MOW tips match the Airflo Skagit head? Should I go for the heaviest ones?

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I'll have to cast flies up to 7'' long since I'll be fishing for taimen in a very remote river in the Far East of Russia.
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You'd be nuts to take a cheap reel if you're going all the way to Siberia, let alone fishing for fish that take a 10wt. I had a Chinook in BC make a Ross Momentum smoke ($600 reel). Eat pasta for a week or something and buy a decent reel. Consider how much you're spending to get there and there are no fly shops nearby (I suspect).

The cheapest good reel I can come up with is a second hand Teton Tioga 12 Magnum if you can find one. They go for about $100. Those reels are bomb proof. Next would be a Ross CLA 6 or 7 for about $200, not pretty but I suspect they'll take whatever you throw at them.

Only used one Echo Ions and the drag was shot after very few steelhead. I like the drag on the Lamson, but I've seen a few come apart (unscrew) while fishing and in one occasion, parts lost in the river. THe fall apart because the clicker spring works against a pawl that is the cover for the disc drag, so each click works to loosen the drag. If you go Lamson, take of the clicker spring and this shouldn't happen. Any budget reel with a one-way bearing to engage the drag (ie: Pfleuger) is suspect IMO. Neither the Teton or the Ross CLA use one-way bearings.

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There are some decent reels for decent prices but you always get what u pay for!! I started off with the Echo Ion as my first reel and it was great until I started to get into a lot of fish, the drag sticks a bit but its wort what I paid for it.
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Thank you for all the pointers. I think I've decided on the reel. Echo suggests Airflo Skagit head 750gr for the Echo King 10wt. How long and how heavy should the tips be? I'll have to cast flies up to 7'' long since I'll be fishing for taimen in a very remote river in the Far East of Russia.
Also, will the RIO MOW tips match the Airflo Skagit head? Should I go for the heaviest ones?
Check out this article: http://www.steelheadbum.com/store/pc...asp?idpage=100

It describes how length, sink-rate, grains come into play and give you a good idea of where to start.
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