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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 06-02-2013, 10:33 PM Thread Starter
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"Shooting Heads Revealed": a link.

http://www.salmonfishingforum.com/fo...read19255.html
A very interesting summary for beginners about casting techniques - leaving aside skagit, though.
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Good read, thanks for posting. I especially liked the paragraphs in part 2 about the Tay / Tummel style. Interesting...

Robert Gillespie has some excellent articles. If you do a search you will find his web site. Reading about his incline exercise and learning to practice it really helped me to gain a better understanding about casting and improved it a bunch.

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Very interesting link and site. I will have to read it all again thoroughly and digest it before practice
I've found the most difficult thing for a beginner - which I still am - is to find a style and stick to it, for the sake of consistency. But this incline exercise can be very useful whatever the style. I've read the V loop is great in many circumstances, even though it seems a casting mistake.
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Thanks for sharing that. It was interesting and gave me a couple of ideas to try. I'm always trying different grips, hand placement, etc. to keep things fresh. I frequent the salmon fishing forum and recommend it to anyone interested in underhand (scandi) casting.
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i agre with Robert Gillespie message on his forum, i do the same for meany years with all kind of flys with scandy, with sucses.
olso heavy salmon/intruders/heavy stuff/ jigflys.
in europe norway /denmark its normal with this,not only in this countrys, use this over the hole wide world.
its perfect fishing,with short lines, most control you have.
for beginners learn the underhand cast,its realy fine.

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Interesting

I didn't read all of it...got his drift early on. The most interesting bit for me was part 2 when he mentioned "Tay/Tummel Style". This Tay/Tummel technique is what many of us call a "Perry Poke", the double spey version requires a bit extra concentration but works very well, and it doesn't have to become a triple spey. But really, there is water that short heads are good on as in deep pools but there is alot MORE water that doesn't demand sinking deep quickly, if at all. Gonna be the naysayer here, figure out how to get deep without a shooting head and you win, fewer loops, minimal stripping and covering more water (fly in the water). Most anadromous salmonids hold in many different types of water, hydraulics make it so.
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I didn't read all of it...got his drift early on. The most interesting bit for me was part 2 when he mentioned "Tay/Tummel Style". This Tay/Tummel technique is what many of us call a "Perry Poke", the double spey version requires a bit extra concentration but works very well, and it doesn't have to become a triple spey. But really, there is water that short heads are good on as in deep pools but there is alot MORE water that doesn't demand sinking deep quickly, if at all. Gonna be the naysayer here, figure out how to get deep without a shooting head and you win, fewer loops, minimal stripping and covering more water (fly in the water). Most anadromous salmonids hold in many different types of water, hydraulics make it so.
I will have to re-read that part. I got the idea that instead of a Poke it was a short single spey with part of the head in the guides, followed by a switch cast in the same direction.

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I will have to re-read that part. I got the idea that instead of a Poke it was a short single spey with part of the head in the guides, followed by a switch cast in the same direction.
You`ve got it in one !
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The roll cast, dump cast, switch cast & jump switch casts are all variations of a similar and "straight forward" setup. You make the decision when you see where your anchor lies and how your D is forming. Call it what you will. I think it's all roll casting, differing velocities provide many options.

It's a perry poke to me, maybe it should be a Grant's poke, in essence they're the same.
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