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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 04-13-2013, 05:42 PM Thread Starter
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Backing connection

what is the best method of connecting backing to the loops on shooting lines?
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There are many methods but my preference is a large blind splice loop on the backing that enables me to pass the entire line through to connect to the running line loop.
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Bimini twist on the backing to make a loop big enough to pass the reel/ spool of line through. Factory loop on the running line if it has one, otherwise I make another large loop using two mono nail knots to close the loop. I trust it.
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Bimini in the backing. Loop to loop the connections. Surgeons loop in mono running lines. 2 nail knots binding a loop in running lines like miracle braid, or fly lines.

Seems to work for me.... pretty versatile.
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Sure a Bimini works in dacron

but why bother when you can do a blind splice quicker, it is smaller, and 100%. I use a coaxial splice in GSP backing, but in any case a loop large enough to pass the reel.

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I don't bother with loop to loop connections between backing and running line at all . If the running line comes with a back end loop , I cut it off , strip off 6" of coating and then do a Blood Knot to the backing . Trim nice and close and apply a thin coating of Loon UV Knot Sense over the knot and the edge of the stripped coating . This is an extremely smooth transition and flows uninterrupted through the guides . I have only been fortunate a few times to see how easily the knot glides through the guides though




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ditto to above. chop it. why would they put a loop at the back of the running line? maybe it was a goof? never had one come that way. i use double nail knot. one, as usual on the end, leave a long tag and do a second one a few inches up. trim the line end flush. goes thru guides just fine, 2 minutes and your done.

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If I am using 30 dacron backing (which I normally do) I create a blind splice loop. I've tried everything else but now that I have started welding lines I put loops in both ends of my running line (if they don't already some that way) and create the blind splice in the backing. I like this better for many reasons but my favorite is that it allows me to move the running line to another reel if I want or switch out a full line to a running line/head combo. I have lots of reels and lines so this situation comes up often. Like yesterday. Due to really high water I ended up setting up a single hand rod with a light skagit head. I pulled the 9wt line off the reel and replaced it with a running line/325 gr skagit combo. I did not want to put my big spey reel on the 9wt 9' rod.

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I just go with Ol faithful
Double surgeons loop big enough to pass a spool/line through. I never have had a issue with it hanging up so I have just stuck with it
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Listen. If you have a welded loop on your line, what you want is a blind splice loop. Look it up. Most guys double catch it I just simply run it about 12" with a single splice and its bombproof. If you dont have a loop on your line, cut your end of the line on the angle and work it inside the backing for about 12", nail knot on the end (I use 50lb braid) and a flexible thin walled shink tubing or a drop of aquaseal. Best methods to connect your backing right there.

A lot you guys probably dont know this method but... imagine a braided loop concept, use your backing in same fashion for a perfect transition.

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I've found the double bimini twist to be (1) the strongest, (2) the most practical and easy to use, and (3) the smallest profile (which will most easily pass through your line guides).

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you have not yet tried blind splice yet

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and (3) the smallest profile (which will most easily pass through your line guides).
How is this a smaller profile then a splice loop? I am pretty sure splice loop is as small as it gets and the loop to loop connection slides through guides with ease and will never catch a guide. Splice loop all the way!
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Tried them all and still continue to use the Bimini coated with pliobond. Yet to fail in over 30 years of saltwater fishing where you see the backing a lot...

Strip the coating off the back end of the running line, make a loop, serve it with you bobbin, and coat with pliobond. Then go loop to loop, smooth, strong, and simple.
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quite a long thread for a connection that sees the light of day how often ? for me, maybe one in 20 steelhead has taken a little backing, never much. most fush, even up to 13 lbs, none at all. i've never even heard of anyone having that connection fail. sounds like those loops make things more complicated. i wish i was fishing to those BC fish, i wouldnt mind doing some more testing on that connection
every method described sounds bullet proof.

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