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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 02-02-2013, 04:17 PM Thread Starter
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Guide probs...

Any tips regarding guide adjustment? One of my favorite rods for some reason has a problem. That is, the handshake loops between running line and head catch, and I mean, can;t budge the line, and of course at the most inopportune moments...while playing and landing a fish! Iíve tried thinner running lines, reversing the loops, all but tweaking the guides? not sure if you can even do that. Might have to not use a loop to loop connection there? BTW, itís an Orvis Helios 11í 8 weight.

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What are handshake loops?
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it would seem to me that changing your line would be easier than changing the rod! try one of the braided loops on your head or on the head and the running line, maybe? that could make the connection a bit lower profile.

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post #4 of 12 (permalink) Old 02-03-2013, 06:13 AM
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Sounds like you loop to loops are not square knots.
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you could throw the line junction into the ole' vice and use a bobbin thread/floss to wrap the area to smoosh them down thinner. its kinda temporary and easy to re do later with a different head on there.

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Itís the darndest thing. Only rod that does this. Iím thinking now that the loop on the airflow head is too thick from the factory in comparison to others. I might have airflow exchange it, after I measure it of course...
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You can make shooting head loop smaller softening just the end of it in Acethone (nail polish) and rub the coating away with your thumbnail. Then coat the core with Aquasure, knot glue etc. The core loop lasts years but it is a good idea to check it occationally. I have made new "core" loops to few of my heads which I did use the most just in case but back then I had only few.

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Airflo(or made by) line?
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Kurt,
Not sure if I understand this problem completely. I always thought
Airflo had these long, thin loops. However, one possible solution.
Replace the tip guide with a saltwater guide. I believe these are bigger.
If it's catching on more than that guide, that involves a better idea.
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Clip your knot off and add some 30lb mono loops to the head. The helios is a great rod at a big price! A lot of money has gone into developing that set up so I would stay clear of changing guides, tips ect.... Is it just hanging up on the tip or other guides as well?
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post #12 of 12 (permalink) Old 02-17-2013, 02:07 AM
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Pictures or better yet, video are worth a thousand words to helping us understand the issue.

With so many people successfully using factory rods to cast running lines and shooting heads with loop-to-loop connections between head and running line, there must be something more to your problem.

Perhaps the "handshake knot" is not formed correctly? Perhaps you might try using an integrated head/running line. Lots of commercial and custom options out there.
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