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540 or 510 Skagit Comapact???? Sage VXP 1337

I have a Sage VXP 13'3" 7 wt that I am trying to get set up with a skagit compact. I mainly want the line to serve as my winter/spring set up to throw as large of stuff as possible with some heavier tips (I know it's only a 7wt). I looked at the airflo site and they recommend the 540 for this rod but the rio website recommends 475-525. I don't want to spend the money on a 540 just to realize it's overlined. But I don't really want to go with the 510 and find that its not enough. Does anyone have any experience with lining this rod or have any suggestions for the proper set up?? Thanks a lot for the help.
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I have the same rod. I use and really like a Rio 525 skagit flight on it. I have also used a 550 and it worked good as well but i prefer the slightly lighter 525.
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I just picked up that rod and have had it out a few times. I was going to start with an Airflo 540 Skagit Compact but my local fly shop was out of stock. They thought the 570 would be better anyway so I tried it. It worked fine but seemed a bit heavy and was 'so so' for my stroke. I next decided to try an Airflo 510 intermediate skagit that I have for a different rod and bingo, it cast very nice and the rod seemed a bit snappier. I then picked up a used 540 Airflo Skagit Compact on this site and cast it yesterday. The rod cast very well and I see myself using the 540 compact and the 510 intermediate for tip work this winter. I look forward to finding a floating line set-up for the summer. Good luck.
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Thanks everyone for the responses and insight. GWJ, you said that you liked both the 540 and 510 but do you think one was any better than the other?? Or are they pretty similar in feel and castability? What were the biggest differences between the them?? Was the difference small or was it pretty noticeable? Thanks.
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see link to Kiene's site - they suggest the Rio flight 550

http://flyshop.kiene.com/sagevxp13374pcspeyrod.aspx
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Ya I wanted to stay away form Rio and get the Airflo. It's really nice though that Rio has such small grain increments.
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I just brought up the link to suggest an approximate grain weight - the 540 might be better than the 510?

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When comparing any of these lines between 500 & 600 grains, the best advice I can offer is take into consideration the intended use of the line.

The Airflo Skagit Compact in 570 & 540, possibly the 510 gr, with sustained anchor casts, is capable of turning over T-14 tips and big, heavily weighted intruder type flies.

The Rio Skagit Flight, having a finer front taper, is more like what is being referred to today as a Scandit head. Although they will handle sink tips, the tip will need to be of a lighter weight in order to match the finer tip of the head. This will effect it's ability to turn over big heavily weighted flies.


If you prefer T&G type casts, and IF you can resist the use of T-14 and big Intruder flies, the Skagit Flight heads will do the trick. If not, go for the Skagit Compact.

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http://www.redsflyfishing.com/Sage-V...y%20-%20mp.htm

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Lots of websites recommend the 525 or even the 510. I just don't want to overline it and for it to be gutless.
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I'd second SSpey's advice to try the lines. Comparing the 510 intermediate to the 540 compact is apples and oranges since the lengths are different and the intermediate "sticks" more during the set-up and sweep. Both were just fine for my stroke.

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Thanks for all of the great advice. Exactly the info I was looking for.
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For that rod the 540 is a better match and will help especially if tossing bigger bugs and heavier tips, besides the 30 grain difference is that of a business card, it won't be detrimental to the feel of the rod.
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The Rio Skagit Flight, having a finer front taper, is more like what is being referred to today as a Scandit head. Although they will handle sink tips, the tip will need to be of a lighter weight in order to match the finer tip of the head. This will effect it's ability to turn over big heavily weighted flies.


IF you can resist the use of T-14 and big Intruder flies, the Skagit Flight heads will do the trick. If not, go for the Skagit Compact.
Hmmm, I'm an average caster at best that is still learning and with a 525 skagit flight I have had no problem easily casting 12ft of T14 and a dumbbell eyed 4" intuder style flies. I would hardly consider a Rio Skagit flight a scandit.
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