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Reel size for my rods

I finally went and purchased 2 rods so I can try and learn how to swing flies with a spey outfit. Ive been fly fishing most of my life and the last 4-5 years been obsessing over purchasing a spey rod. I have 2 rods first is a switch 7wt 11'6 and the second is a spey 9wt 14'. I have numerous single hand rods paired up with reels and Id like to purchase a reel for each one of these 2 rods. From what I understand a reel of 1-2 sizes larger than the rod wt is needed to carry the line needed for this style of fishing. any help is appreciated. Ive been doing a ton of reasearch but havnt spoke to any one whos been spey fishing for a long time. Ill be going to a fly show here in north N.J. in couple months and I hope to talk with a few guy that can steer me in the right direction.
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Respectively 4" and 4.25"/4.50" depending on which direction the reel seat is (uplock or downlock) and the length of the cork.

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How you get the line out and fishing is personal preference so as long as it works and is easy no one should care but the caster. MSB
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So yes.

"From what I understand a reel of 1-2 sizes larger than the rod wt is needed to carry the line needed for this style of fishing."

2hander lines are big, even the short head ones. Start with a single hander reel rated for 9+ for single handers, even for SkagitScandi heads. Too big, not likely, just add more 30# backing if needed.

For 6 and down you can go to a 7/8 single hander. Just my .02 cents.

Reel has two functions: Hold all that line, shooting line, backing AND balance out the rod. With a long stick you need more weight at the back end to accomplish any of the above.

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Thx

Thx for the replies guys, I for one hate buying fishing tackle I havnt held in my hand or buying something that a buddy or a dealer swears by, we all have our likes and dislikes. Ill prob bring both rods to the show and hopefully put a few reels on them to get a feel.
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Ill prob bring both rods to the show and hopefully put a few reels on them to get a feel.
The above is a very good game plan.

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Also the weight

Having only fished with dry flies and the ever so popular chucking shot with one handers in the NY tribs, am I correct in saying with this spey style of fly fishing the sinktip poly leader and large weighted flies are all that's needed? No additional weighted hardware? That alone is enough to get my attention! In my 30 years flyfishing I have on few occasions fished certain stretches of water which are deep enough and long enough when fidhing by myself noone dwn stream standing in my sweep was able to take all but a bb off my leader and have had steelhead enilate a streamer in that water! It's nice not contacting bottom soon as u hit the water! I'd honestly rather catch one like that than 10 fish bouncing bottom! Especially early fall all fresh chrome lower section of the river! And when I hook one that hasn't felt a fly yet there's no mistaking it!'
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Most Steelhead fly water/holding water will be between two to six if undisturbed. In winter, you can often find fish in soft shallow water when the rivers are flowing high and dirty. In those situations the heavy flies and tips will have you right back on the bottom. So the largest and heaviest flies are not always necessary. No hard-ware, worm-weights, swivels, etc is needed.

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sage one reel

Not to hijack this thread, but I am having the same dilemma of choosing a reel size for my new sage one 7136. Will I need a heavier reel since I have read that this rod is a bit lighter than other 7 weights? Unfortunately I do not have a clave or nearby fly shop (that carries spey equipment) to try out reels. Anyone have any recommendations specifically for this rod?
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Do you mean a lighter reel since it is a lighter rod? Anything 7 to 9 ounces. I have a Sage 7136 and like the Hardy Marquis Salmon No.1 (8 oz) on it. 9-12 ounces for a 14 footer and up.
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Whoops... that is exactly what I meant And diameter isn't a big issue then? A 4" would work just as well as the 3.75" Salmon 1? Thanks for the reply!
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Old school on how heavy a reel do I need.

To figure out how 'heavy' a reel we needed to balance a rod was to take 1/2 oz fishing weights and start hanging same off the reel seat. When you got it balanced you backed off the line weight.

1 oz 'equals' 440 grains so for a typical spey line set up/backing hit that point and back off about 3/4 to 1.5 oz for head systems, 2 to maybe 2.5 for a Double taper line. Size of the reel comes into play at that point to hold all the 'stuff.'

Reason for the 'spread' between lines is with a head system all that's going to be beyond the rod tip when you cast. Not so much with a DT




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Thank you!

Many thanks for helping to set this newbie up! I hope to put this advice to good use.
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Diameter will play a part in how fast a reel picks up line on the retrieve. Most classic Hardys larger than 4" are too heavy except for on the longest (16 feet and up) or heaviest spey rods. A modern large-arbor reel will be lighter and pick up line much quicker. That can be an advantage when a fish decides to swim straight at you and you have to try and keep up with it.
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My Abel Spey reel fully loaded with line weighs 12.4oz and balances my 7136-4 Sage One quite nicely for my tastes.

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My Abel Spey reel fully loaded with line weighs 12.4oz and balances my 7136-4 Sage One quite nicely for my tastes.
Thanks! I will look into the Abel line.
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