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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 11-15-2012, 06:29 PM Thread Starter
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Talking Striped bass

I am going to fish stiped bass on the weekend. Any hints on what flies these fish like?
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I have been using a white muddler deceiver I tied up last winter with good success this season on an intermediate SGS iskagit belly and tip. They like all fish can be selective or not at all depending on the day. One old standby seems to work pretty well all the time and that is a chartruese and white clouser.
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I use these on Hybrid Striped Bass,the White ones in the box on the Right are ~5" long.
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I made the Blaze Pink streamer from a Susan B. Komen wig and got this HSB.
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Nice flies, I do not have these patterns, I do have other styles and have a few mice that an older gent. Gave me a few weeks ago. Now which rod? 13,14,15 and which line? This is my first time targeting this species.
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Nice flies, I do not have these patterns, I do have other styles and have a few mice that an older gent. Gave me a few weeks ago. Now which rod? 13,14,15 and which line? This is my first time targeting this species.
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In most situations, presentation is a more important factor than fly pattern in striper fishing. buck tail, zonker and above mentioned deciver will work well. For fly size selection: clear, calmer water - I prefer smaller flies; low light, murky water - I prefer bigger flies.

For rod selection, it really depends on what kind of casting you prefer. I use 12'-16' rods from 6 weight to 10 weight all has their place in striper fishing. Windy day = shorter rod, calmer day = longer rod. Overhead or spey, either casting style will work. I have been using clear intermediate single handed line on two handed rods and having a lot of fun. Mark

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Where are you gonna fish bass in Nova? Do you guys have residents?
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Interesting thread. There is quite a "conversation" going on on "stripersonline" re two-handed(TH) rods for stripers.

Yuhine - your comment re short rod for wind and long rod for no wind is interesting.
I use rods from 11' to 12' - #7, 8, 9, 10. A few at 10'6" - # 6, 9 and 12.

I also have a 13'6" #11 that I never use.

All are built by me on CTS switch blanks - or beach blanks of my own design.

What do the longer rods bring to the table for you? I really do not see their application maybe because I never do anchor-point casts. Just over-head.

Re the flys - this time of year in New England I would go with herring or large baitfish patterns. Kind of late for sand eels a I think.

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Interesting thread. There is quite a "conversation" going on on "stripersonline" re two-handed(TH) rods for stripers.

Yuhine - your comment re short rod for wind and long rod for no wind is interesting.
I use rods from 11' to 12' - #7, 8, 9, 10. A few at 10'6" - # 6, 9 and 12.

I also have a 13'6" #11 that I never use.

All are built by me on CTS switch blanks - or beach blanks of my own design.

What do the longer rods bring to the table for you? I really do not see their application maybe because I never do anchor-point casts. Just over-head.

Re the flys - this time of year in New England I would go with herring or large baitfish patterns. Kind of late for sand eels a I think.

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Hi Herb

Great to see your quiver for the stripers. I have heard a lot of good thing on those CTS blanks. But never got a chance to try their two handed.

I agree, long rods are not really necessary for the ocean fishing... the 16 footer on the beach is merely for the casting fun. Spey on longer line, or overhead casting on shooting heads. Particularly on the windy days, longer rods encounter more air resistance that I don't really enjoy hauling the big sticks around. 12-13 footers are doing just fine. But, during calmer days, longer rod with longer lines could be very useful in the stealthy fishing condition.

I fished a lot on a big river fishery before; big river is different story for the need of longer rod, a lot of currents and rocks so longer line control is needed.
below is video I made a couple years ago on this nice river fishery. fish are holding in some tricky currents, so sinktips, small flies and long cast could become essential elements to get into those fish. Mark



BTW, one of my favorite overhead casting rod on windy beaches - Guideline LeCie 13'7 8/9 light, powerful and sensitive (photo below)
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Nice video - thanks.

Yes - the CTS is a great blank. What is nice is that they will build me anything that I wish. They allow me to tweak a tip or a butt to achive the effect that I want.
Since I now only build on CTS blanks - they allowed me to be a re-seller of their blanks. This is realy a disease. As I am sure that you realize.

I have a 11'6" #7 and a 11' #6 that I will prob build this winter. They are not switch rods though. I designed them for OH casting with stiffer butts. They are not forthe surf though. More for wading bays, etc.
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Where in nova scotia? ...... Grand lake near Halifax. Ns is polluted with bass. I just was never interested... The spey swing is calling and I haven't been out for three weeks since the end of the salmon season. What a sickness, you don't have to be crazy but it helps.
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Nice video - thanks.

Yes - the CTS is a great blank. What is nice is that they will build me anything that I wish. They allow me to tweak a tip or a butt to achive the effect that I want.
Since I now only build on CTS blanks - they allowed me to be a re-seller of their blanks. This is realy a disease. As I am sure that you realize.

I have a 11'6" #7 and a 11' #6 that I will prob build this winter. They are not switch rods though. I designed them for OH casting with stiffer butts. They are not forthe surf though. More for wading bays, etc.
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Hi Herb,

That's great to know you re- sell their blanks. I wonder have you use their fiberglass blank? 10-12'. I was impreesed by their trout rod, but never try their Quartz fiberglass Spey (Sorry, don't mean to hijack this thred).

Btw, pere, if you fish lakes, and stillwater type of water. I recommend integrated shooting heads for better retrieve manipulations... Wulff ambush line is great for this kind of fishing.

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You'll enjoy them on the TH. NS probably has large enough tides to actually swing for them rather than strip. Sounds like fun. Do you catch sea runs too? I am a sea run fanatic.
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I'm blessed to live close to several rivers where stripers follow the seasonal runs of various baitfish far inland, beyond the head of tide. They can be found in the same runs and pools where you would find Atlantic salmon (if we still had any) and smallmouths. I fish for them on the swing using a 12'6" 6/7 wt. Echo Classic lined with a Rio 400g Skagit. I use floating, intermediate, and fast sink tips, depending on the water and activity of the fish. Because these fish are on a singular mission - following and eating baitfish - fly selection hasn't been complicated. Generally, if you can get it in front of them, they will eat it. I have caught them on everything from overdressed 3/0 Deceiver type flies to 1.5 classic steelhead patterns. My two best swinging flies this past year were patterns I call the Duke Ellington and the Silver Crawford in the 1/0 to 2 size range - but mostly, that was because I fished those a great deal. I'm sure I could have done just as well, if not better, with Deceivers, Intruders, or Clousers.

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Aldo, Nice looking flies...

The white marabou reminded me that I have tied a set of hybrid salmon-striper flies... those were using a set of Pro-tube cones, I really like the good quality of Pro tubes.
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So glad to get all of this feedback. I will be trying for strippers tomorrow morning on Grand lake, it is supposed to have a current at this spot as it is between runs. By the way for all hockey fans Sydney Crosby has a place on this lake , it is a gated community.
You fellows have some very nice flies , if you want to part with them ,I am willing to buy them.
I will be fishing 2 rods and 2 lines at this spot. 13,-15 ft, a skagit head and a long belly my favorite. Wish me luck
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