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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 12-12-2011, 06:49 PM Thread Starter
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question for salmon river ny regulars

with the water now dropped to 335 cfs and water temps in mid to upper 30's what flies are recommended for swinging during this cold period? any sink tip advice or leader recommendations also appreciated.
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post #2 of 19 (permalink) Old 12-12-2011, 08:13 PM
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Although any streamer will work, olive green whooly bugger, or related streamers are great producers in cold weather. Slower sinking polyleaders on a scandi head work great in these low flows.
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thanks for the info. my firsy year playing with the spey rod fished on sun and most of today went 1 for 3 fishing a small zonker. my bro went 8 for 20 something fishing with eggs and nymphs.( the river sure looks good with fresh snow) as tempting as it wasto switch back to nymphs i stuck it out with the 2 hander. saw another guy hook up at least 15 times
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Were you fishing at the DSR?
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fished mid river sunday altmar on monday. i struggled to put things together as i am new to fishing the two hander. the low water had me second guessing my poly leader choice in ever run i fished.slower water went with an intermediate 1.5 in. and in faster runs a 2.6 ips leader but always questioned myself if this was where i needed to be.the takes i had were in seems next to fast water. the guy below me was swinging flies and i watched him hook up constantly.he was not the most social character so there was no help there. i may go back up next week, i am hoping to have a little more insight on rigging by then.
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This would be an excellent time to treat yourself to a Christmas present and hire a guide.......There are handful of very good Spey guides who could really help you, and get you to a "place" where you will make confident casts and gear selections.........
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the guide thing would be nice but not affordable.recieved some good info via pm and spoke with malinda on the phone she told me to stop in next time i am in altmar and said she will help get me squared away.Malindas is the best shop on the salmon river thats where i bought all my spey stuff!!!
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maybe this will help you

You are using a two hander and the flow rate is 335 -375,try a few Airflo 10' Polyleaders starting at fast sink an go up depending on the water you are fishing, if you doin the tailouts a intermediate or slow sink will do fine anything deeper will require you to get that fly down an show where they can see it usually closer to the substrate,water temp is everything where applies to fish,and steelhead are no different than any other fish,when its colder the fish are more lethargic..doesnt mean they aren't hungry an won't take a fly presented properly.
Also if i may,Malinda is a True lady an runs a great shop and can fish as well as she runs a business.She has Rio Spey Versa leaders i bought a few because at that time she didn't have any Airflo stick to a 10'er i think you will be better served unless you are going to the Oswego ,Gennesee, or Niagara,then the longer leaders come into play there.floaters will probably be a waste of time unless you have dry action which does happen but i bet youd hit the lottery before that does.
buy from fast sink an to extra super fast in the Airflo,and 2.6,3.9,5.6,7.0 inch per second sink rates in the Rio Spey Versa Leaders.
im all new to this poly leader thing but i tried it this fall at those flow rates an these leaders kicked butt i am very fortunate to have the great bunch of guys on here that helped me to get in the game an figure these things out so quickly an the success i had enjoyed this fall in such a short time..one thing use maxima or seaguar flouro for tippett.
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at 335 cfs

I did better with a Type 3 tip > http://raspberryfisher.wordpress.com...s-that-worked/
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thank you all for your assistance and encouragement.i recieved alot of good advice both hear on the public forum an via pm now i just to get back to the river to put all this advice to good use.should be up there next week or right after xmas. report to follow
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good advise so far

Olive bugger is one of my fishiest flys on the SR. Black is a close second. I like a copper or gold bead, schlappen body, marabou tail.

http://www.pbase.com/jaypetersen/ima...26464/original

As far as tips go, 8 to 10ft of type 4 or 6 works for me with a weighted fly. Polys or sinktips. Usually a five or six ft leader, not smaller than 2x. I tend to use the same setup and just alter the cast angle to 45 deg as the water gets shallow in the tailout.

Don't rule out fishing the faster water. NY fishing can be a zoo, I have learned not to let other fishermen ruin my day. On a few occasions I got low-holed in a run I was fishing and moved on to less desirable water that was running faster .... and got a few fish.

Dont get discouraged by the indicator fishermen, If they are catching the hell out of it, you will get some. True in all steelhead waters.

good luck, i might hit a day in a few weeks. JP
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If you fish down in the lower river (2A and below) you'll have a better chance of finding some fresher more aggressive fish. Especially since the water has come down.


I take that back. Looks like the river is at 1800 cfs. Not sure how long it will last, but you should still be able to find some fish. Wade safely! I checked some of the other gauges in the area and it looks like they've already come down. Wont be long before they drop the water on the SR back down. They have it posted for midnight tonight for 1800 cfs. Should update on the waterline by 5pm.
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>>Especially since the water has come down.

Was 1850cfs yesterday and scheduled 1250 for today after being 335 weekdays last week...
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Cant wait.Will have all next week to play!!


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Seems like Brookfield is having some issue's trying to manage the flows the past few days.
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