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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 11-20-2011, 01:18 AM Thread Starter
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casting ti 10-17 heads

any advice on casting a heavy shooting head (ti 10-17 10') with a 2 handed spey with a rio line...i'm using a snap t cast and having trouble getting the head out of the water
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what line, rod and fly combos you working with.

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rio skagit 9 wt running line and foating head (550gr) and a sage14'3'' z-axis 9143-4 rod... and i'm chuck'n #6-#2 prawn, intruder, and gp patterns orange and black (some tied on waddingtons)most have barbell heads

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Seems like you have plenty of rod and Skagit head for the amount of T-14 you want to chuck. Check casting form to be sure your rod is loaded when you begin the foreward cast.

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thanks

yeah...my form needs some tweeking..i have only been spey casting for a month or two...i have no problem without the heavy head or if i use a circle cast, but i want a sweet look'n snap t...lol
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Sage Z-Axis 9143

I use a Rio Skagit Flight 625 on mine which weighs 618 grains
Comfortably, I cast 15' T-14
Haven't tried T-17 but I bet I and you can whip out 8' or 12' of T-17...
If it is difficult, try a head of 650...
This is a 9 wt rod so 650 is right; 550 is standard for 8 wt rods...
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.i have no problem without the heavy head or if i use a circle cast, but i want a sweet look'n snap t.
Are you castin or fishin? Forget the "sweet look'n snap T" and use the Circle C. As you already know the C will bring the head to the surface. Save the Snap T for your floating line apps.

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Are you castin or fishin? Forget the "sweet look'n snap T" and use the Circle C. As you already know the C will bring the head to the surface. Save the Snap T for your floating line apps.
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which ever cast you use, you really need to go slow at the beginning - a slow controlled lift will bring the head out of the water - thus Poppy's suggestion of the C rather than the T. It can still be tough if the water is squirrly - as a final idea if still having trouble - roll cast the tip up casting straight downstream then go into your lift
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Loop to loop T-17, T-14 and T-11 lighter end towards the fly to have a 30Ft 420gr head and Scandi Spey cast it. You need one cast to lift the head which you can turn perhaps 30 decrees and immediately turn the rest and launch the fishing cast.
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Are you castin or fishin? Forget the "sweet look'n snap T" and use the Circle C. As you already know the C will bring the head to the surface. Save the Snap T for your floating line apps.
MJC is right on for the casting suggestion.

Make a high, large flat "C" and you will comfortably lift out the sinking tip.

Snap "T" will work,,,,with very precise timing.

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Under some circumstances the sink tip digs in real deep, and you may need a roll cast downstream to get your line to the surface before you do your c-spey; yes, I think MJC hits the nail on the head in his asesssment.
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That's a big stick and 550 grains is much too light to load it properly. Try the Airflo compact skagit 720 grain = cannon!!
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I would agree, I run a 650 skagit flight on my 9143 Z, and don't have issues with t14 / t17

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Having struggled with this myself, the only other thing I would add is that you keep a constant motion on the cast. If you wait too long to start the sweep it will dig back in with a heavy fly. Keep the momentum. Not saying to speed up, just keep moving.

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