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post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old 11-03-2011, 11:18 PM Thread Starter
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Skagit tips - floating and sinking

Couple of questions regarding tips for compact Skagit.
1. Is there a general rule for the length of floating tips to attach to compact Skagit? I have a Decho 13' 7 wt with 510 grain Skagit. What length floating tip would be ideal for this set up? The reason I ask this is because my main line goes out fine but the floating tip and leader seem to crumple at the end of the cast. The floating tip that I have on the set up is about 14 feet and the leader is about 12 feet.
2. I very seldom use sink tips but with colder weather coming up will need to start using sink tips. Do the tips attach to the Skagit in place of the floating tip?
3. Can you keep the floating tip on and just replace the floating mono leader with a short sinking poly leader?
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1) A floating tip about 8' or 10' might be a tad easier to manage. Does the taper to the floater match up properly to the skagit head? Is your mono leader tapered?

2) Yes the tips go on the end of the Skagit head after you remove the floater. Your leader can then be 3'-5' of straight mono.

3) Yes you could put a sinking poly on the end of the floating tip but it may not get as deep or turn over as big of a fly. It is probobly doable but I havent cast that rod/ line combo and I'm not sure how it would go with the 14 foot floating tip with the amount of grains and all on that rod. I think it would be on the heavy side for enjoyable casting.

I thing #2) would be your best bet for fishing sinktips or even the heaviest poly leaders. Hope this helps you out.

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The idea of the compact skagits is to shorten the line you are casting making everything very easy with minimal effort so I would say your floating tip is pretty long - I would likely stay around 10 feet (maybe a MOW floating tip) or even shorter - Mike McCune uses floating tips in the 5 to 6' range

SkagitMiester pretty much covered answers to 2 and 3 and makes a great point in his answer to #1 - if the tip is too light or too heavy in comparison to the grains/foot in your skagit system it will makes things harder to get smooth turn over
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Skagit tips - floating and sinking

Thanks for the info. I will try shortening the floater to about 10' to start and see how that turns over. I do use a Rio tapered leader. As for the poly leader to the floater, the areas that I plan to fish are not that deep so I will experiment with the poly leader to floater and if I have to, I will attach a sink tip to the Skagit.
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why not a scandi?

Just a thought ... not sure if this is an option or not but have you tried a compact scandi line? You could just fish a floating poly for all your floating line work and when you want to run a sink tip you can put on a fairly fast sinking poly with that rod on a scandi setup. Since you donít need to get down much a supper fast sinking poly and lightly weighted fly should be plenty? You can still use sustained anchors and still cast in tight back to the brush type of spots. Might be worth you trying?
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Several times last year I tried a 12 foot floating tip with about a 10 foot leader attached to the end of my Skagit head for floating line work. Didn't like the way it turned over, but it was a vast improvement over my mid belly when the wind was blowing.
This year I put a floating poly of about 10 feet with 4 feet of strait tippet looped to the end. The poly was olive colored, so I figured there was no fear of scaring fish with it so I went with the short piece of tippet. It turned over great and the fish came to my flies with reckless abandon even in very clear and slow lies. I was surprised how well it worked. I hadn't used poly leaders in 8 years or so, but I'm sold on them again, at least for conditions that don't require getting down with real heavy stuff.

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