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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 03-16-2011, 06:35 PM Thread Starter
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Hello SpeyPagers, There wasn't a separate "Meeting Grounds/Introductions" forum, so I hope I'm posting in the right place.

Anywho, COMPLETE newbie here as far as spey fishing goes. The name's Phouvieng, but people call me Pete or P.D. for short. I'm from the Rochester, NY area if anyone is familiar with; Lake Ontario and its tribs are my back yard.

I'm looking to pick up my first spey setup without any experience whatsoever, and whilst I have fished a single hander, I haven't much experience of that either. Pray for me!

That's my introduction for now, I'll have plenty of questions once I'm done searching what answers already lie here on the boards.
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Right on.

This place is great. Every time I think I have just about the stupidest question ever, it either turns out it's been asked a couple times before, or there are a few people who are also interested in the answer.
Good luck with your first DH'er.

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Welcome

I'm pretty much just a "lurker" and learn a lot by reading much of the stuff -- and for some reason I enjoy looking at the flies of the wonderfully skilled tiers.

I'll bet if you posted what you were thinking of getting you'd get a lot of advise.

Do get a THCI or at least a good caster to help with the early learning curve. Much easier to get some basics correct from the git go, rather than have to reprogram the muscle learning.

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Hello

PD Your best bet for a local resource is the Oak Orchad shop in Williamsville. They have a bunch of nice folks including Vince Tobia, Rick Kustich and the guys that run that shop are very helpfull and not selling every thing in the store. I'm too far away to use it often but am a fan.

Cheers, bill
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well hello there. I was and am still a newb as well. started late last fall. Have yet to touch a fish but I started at a hard time to catch fish. don't be affraid to ask questions. and I feel for you family if you have one. this spey thing is a hard drug to live with. LOL
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Welcome on board and good luck, this can be a money sucking experience and very, very addicting.

God I love spey fishing!

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If you can keep your wallet tucked into your pants till right before the fall season, there will be ample opportunity to try rigs and learn from experts:

http://www.grandriverspey.ca/

Don't know how far from Caledonia area you are, but this could be worth it.


I will say this: As a newbie, I was star-struck by the many shiny things in spey, and everyone loves giving opinion on what to use. I went through some expensive iterations trying to get a good deal; which turned out to be a ton of cash. When I couldn't cast, I traded up for shinier and more expensive stuff. Not smart.

The best people to give advice aren't those trying to sell you a sweetheart of a deal. those who first ask you detailed questions and get a good clear picutre about where you fish, when you fish, how you fish.....details like that and then lastly ---what the budget allows.

Also, the matching of the line to the rod in speystyle casts? is wayyy more important than with regular flycasting. A bad $1200 combo wont perform as well as a less expensive rig thats been properly matched.

Really important that you learn on a properly matched rig. Save the frustration and $$ and ensure 3 times over that the combo of rod and line are dialed in on paper----before you first set foot in the water.

Oh yeah, one more thing. When you get jacked by a late october chromer, you will see why that experience is so very different from hundreds of passive head shakers that take nymphs or roe.

Did we meet on the credit forks by caledon a couple summers ago? The name/face look kinda familiar. You were getting ready for a do it yourself BC trip. I had just landed a big brown when you came down the path?

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Thank you everyone for the welcoming and replies!

Bill, I'm in the Oak Orchard area quite a bit as of late.. I'll definitely take a visit to those fellas at the shop, thanks.

Speyday, I appreciate you taking the time for the great response, thanks. I'm actually from Rochester, NY. I'm not sure if you were referring to Caledonia, NY; But I get the feeling you're not. Perhaps someday we will meet though.

Thanks again everyone.
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Welcome...now, call Poppy.

It's really THAT easy!
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Thank you everyone for the welcoming and replies!

Bill, I'm in the Oak Orchard area quite a bit as of late.. I'll definitely take a visit to those fellas at the shop, thanks.

Speyday, I appreciate you taking the time for the great response, thanks. I'm actually from Rochester, NY. I'm not sure if you were referring to Caledonia, NY; But I get the feeling you're not. Perhaps someday we will meet though.

Thanks again everyone.

If you're near Carl Coleman's fly shop stop in, they will definitely help you out. Jay and Carl will get you in the right direction. They fish that side of the lake alot as well as the Salmon River.
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Welcome aboard! You will find this a fun and informative place. Before I became a teacher, I used to fish the Rochester area every fall. (I have lots of family in the area.) Many good memories of big fish! My daughter starts at the U of R in September, so I'm likely to be back that way quite a bit more in the future. Maybe I'll see you on the water.

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welcome to the machine! step 1) get video. john and amy hazel have the best beginner video out there. step 2) talk to poppy at the red shed. he can save you a ton of money by making sure you get the right gear the first time.
step 3) ask alot of questions here. you will get alot of answers. step 4) practice, video, practice, video..... step 5) catch the disease.

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Try to attend the Spey Nation IV event this June 25th at the Pineville parking lot on the Salmon River near Pulaski. Usually starts about 9am. Many rod manufacturers attend with their complete line-up of spey rods you can test out. Also some very good demonstrators and experts to talk to.
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Nope, this was Caledon, ON, a little town north of Missisauga on the credit river. Oh well, welcome anyway....lol!

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Thank you everyone for the welcoming and replies!

Bill, I'm in the Oak Orchard area quite a bit as of late.. I'll definitely take a visit to those fellas at the shop, thanks.

Speyday, I appreciate you taking the time for the great response, thanks. I'm actually from Rochester, NY. I'm not sure if you were referring to Caledonia, NY; But I get the feeling you're not. Perhaps someday we will meet though.

Thanks again everyone.
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Phouvieng,
Welcome! I live in Pittsford and I'd be more than happy to help you out with some free lessons. Once they fill up the canal we can cast from a sweet platform that kayakers use for launching. It's slow moving water so not quite the same as a river situation, but good enough to practice cast from. During the summer months I'm there a few nights a week playing around with lines/rods. I have a few() rods you can cast along with some Scandi, Skagit, short belly (deltas) and a mid belly Carron Jetstream you can play with.

PM me and I will send you my cell number. Or let me know when you will be on the river and we can meet there. You should certainly put Spey Nation on your calendar. It's in June, the 25th I believe this year. On the Salmon river in the Pineville lot. I highly recommend you wait to spend the cash until then so you can figure out what you want. If you only have the cash for one rod to begin with, IMHO, you should look into something around 11'6" for a 7wt. You can use it on the Genny, Oak, Sandy, the Salmon River.

Hold on because it's a fun ride swinging flies. I even built an 8'9" 3/4 wt two hander for swinging Oatka! No fish is safe.

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