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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 05-14-2019, 07:49 AM Thread Starter
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New to spey casting

Can someone suggest lines for a 12 1/2' 6wt Reddington Duelly ll rod ...running lines, skagit/Scandi heads sink tips, etc. I am fishing tidal rivers for striper schoolies and medium to large freestone rivers for trout here in New England. I am new to this casting but am okay with a snap T and a double spey cast using a friends rod. Need suggestions on choices...there are so many.
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Best taper for Spey I have found from SA UST originals but now they have evolved to Seamless Density Short which I have not bought but they come 17 different sink rates starting from 6-7wt 400gr/31ft which might be too heavy for your rod?

Another SA head which comes also as intecrated WF line is Spey Lite Scandi which come ten weights and lengths (150gr/20ft...420gr/27ft) but they are only floating. It might suit better when fishing is done using line stripping when the length what line is stripped is more important than cast length. I have fished Stripers Spey casting mostly floating heads using long 15ft or very long 20ft mono leaders which has low water drag and then weighted fly like Clouser sinks quite fast.

Long mono leader is good for Spey casting when fly water drag comes proportionally bigger than the line loop (which D-loop is) and then anchor does not blow much. Long leader also allows fly land quieter and farther which can be good for fishing but when it is windy or fly is big a shorter leader makes fishing easier.

I have many change tip lines but I don't like them and when I need to fish very deep I change to full sinking head.

You can use most mono lines as shooting line. I have used Berkeley Big Game a lot. Wetting it night before and before fishing stretching it straight very hard it shoots very well without tangling because it is stiff. For 350gr head I have used about 35lbs mono.

Snap-T is good Spey cast but there is biggest possibility to break the rod! When setting anchor the fly flight path might come erratic depending how deep you lift it or how much water drag fly has so every time you change something, fly, leader, current, wading depth etc. First do Circle-C which is basically same cast but more rod safe and then gradually approach Snap-T anchor set.

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My suggestion is as follows:
Running line - buy a Rio Connectcore metered shooting line. It has a colour change every ten meters to allow you to monitor your progress in distance casting. My suggestion for beginners is to avoid mono shooting line.
Shooting head - buy an Airflo Rage Compact head. It is an easy casting head and great for a newbie. It is a bit of a hybrid.
Sink tips - while the Rage will turn over light sink tips, I suggest that you begin with a selection of Rio Versileaders in various sink rates until you are comfortable casting with a sunken tip.
My two cents only - your mileage may vary.
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Connectcore shooting line changes color every 10 feet which is nice. https://www.rioproducts.com/products...ered-shtg-line
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Thanks for the info...sounds like the way to go...now to figure out the "grain"...and correct weights for this rod. I'm new to the whole thing...but I am committed to learn this!!! The lines suggested sound great for me...thanks again.
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For weights, I'm not sure what Redington recommends but it should be easy to find. For a 6wt your likely 400-450grain. Low end for scandi and rage and higher end for skagit and 'belly lines. No hard and fast rule though. You might find one more comfortable than the other. For me I always suggest starting with scandi's and poly leaders. I find them easier and more forgiving to cast and learn. Besides, you can get away with these types of lines in most conditions. Skagit lines are great for deep, cold and fast water but but fall short on delicate presentation.

There are plenty of line charts on line that would list the dually specifically and they are usually pretty bang on. Never casted one but from what I here the dually is a dam good rod for the price point. Just get out there and enjoy!

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Check out Rio's line recommendations for your rod. Should make a good starting point.

http://cdn-tp2.mozu.com/15440-m1/cms...a-b59480f832d3

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post #8 of 9 (permalink) Old 05-22-2019, 08:20 AM Thread Starter
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I have the chart now and have selected good lines for my initial set up (Rio metered connectcore and Airflo Rage with various versaleaders) for good learning and "fish catching" too I hope. More line configurations to follow as I become more experienced and probably more rods!!! Reels!!!....Oh my god..."Gear Acquisition Syndrome" (GAS)...its starting again!!!!
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Finally finished putting together my first spey rig. 12 1/2' 6wt Redington Duelly ll with a #10 Tioga reel, backing, connect core (thinest - metered), Airflow Rage 420gr, and versileader(s). Trying it out today at the local trout club. Thanks to all for your help with getting me started in the world of spey casting...for many reasons, this will be a great addition to my fly fishing .
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