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post #1 of 41 (permalink) Old 02-04-2019, 07:38 PM Thread Starter
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For Skagit work with heavy T stuff, should a leader of 4-5' have some taper to it? If single hand work requires a butt section followed by progressive taper, just tying on 5' of 12lb floro with no butt for Skagit seems clunky.
Or does the density and line speed of Skagit heads and tips result in consistent enough turnover?
Any leader formula suggestions for deep stuff appreciated.
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I use a short section of 25lb Maxima with loops on both ends so I can protect a welded loop on my tip. The larger diameter does not cinch down enough to cut through the coating.
If my tip had a braided mono loop, I wouldn't bother with the large diameter mono and go straight to the tippet of say 8lb to 12lb. Fly size would determine my tippet, not water clarity.


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just tying on 5' of 12lb floro with no butt for Skagit seems clunky.
Skagit = clunky as far as Im concerned. Just a length of level mono/fluro works just fine. I dont think you will see any advantage with a long tapered leader.

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I use 3-4' of maxima ultragreen. That's plenty. No need for a long or tapered leader with skagit work and tips.
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You might want to look at Feather-Craft Furled leaders. They have them at various lengths. They have the Power Streamer Fluorcarbon Furled Leader 3 ft long with a micro swivel on the tip end. Just put on your tippet!
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I'm probably the odd ball of the group using my own custom spliced MOW tips. My tips have no loop at the end of the T-14. Instead, I strip off a couple inches of coating , exposing the 35lb mono core. Albright or Barrel knot a short (maybe 1.5/2.0 ft) butt section of 25lb mono or flouro to that & tie a loop to the business end of that for a tippet section of 2 or more ft of 12lb flouro. I only fish weighted intruder type flies from T-14 tips. Smaller conventional flies are a whole different ball game.
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I keep mine under 4'. I go straight to the fly with steelhead stuff, usually 10lb Ultragreen. For trout streamers, I usually have a section of 15lb off the tip, with an 18-24" tippet of 8lb.

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All you need is a 3-4ft section of 12lb Maxima.
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wait... I shouldn't be using straight 12# on my single hand?
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With skagit heads I keep the leader length from three to six feet and I use a transitional section in-between the tippet (15 or 12 ) and a heavy butt-section of 20 -
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... nothing to do with turn-over since Skagit heads pack plenty power for that - only that a gradual transition in diameter will make for stronger knots. It has happened too often that the [thinner] tippet when looped to the heavier butt-section would break on a strong hit . Popped-off at the loop too often.
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Leader turn over on a Skagit head with a sinking tip is only marginally relevant to my experience. I Albright 1' of 15# Maxima to the sink tip and then blood knot 2 to 3' of 10# Maxima tippet. The reason for such an "elaborate" arrangement is because when I tried using just 4' of tippet material, my surgeon's knot loop breaks almost every single time instead of the modified Turle knot I attach my fly with. This way if the Turle knot doesn't break, the tippet breaks at the blood knot, so it's a quick fix to add a new tippet and fly.
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I use 4 to 5 feet of 10lb maxima, cut off that length and bring the two ends together, tie a perfection loop in the two end together you will end up with two strand in the perfection loop then cut one leg.
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I use a 6" section of 25lb maxima to protect the welded loop on the tip, then 3 to 5' of 12lb Ultragreen
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A while back I started using a 18" piece of 30# before my 3' Maxima leader - everything got better.

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