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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 10-20-2009, 07:39 AM Thread Starter
 
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Practicing Casting during the Close Season - How and what

It's a great feeling when your rod is in the groove and everything is working just the way you want. Casting off either shoulder is no problemo and you are able to execute different casts and changes of direction at will - regardless of line type or sink rate.

Well, that's enough about my aspirations.

I want to come out of the traps running in 2010.

I will be taking a couple of lessons after the new year starts.

Would appreciate views in how to stay in the groove meantime

What should I focus on - is it loop formation, application of power, timing or what?

I really want to learn the Snake Roll as can do a Single and Double Spey relatively OK - very impressed with the Snake Roll for Sinking Lines etc

Eoin Fairgrieve's videos a big encouragement

Any help/advice appreciated

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Hello I would focus on the basics. Memorize the steps and make them fluid on the switch cast and the single spey.All else will follow. MK
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It's a great feeling when your rod is in the groove and everything is working just the way you want. Casting off either shoulder is no problemo and you are able to execute different casts and changes of direction at will - regardless of line type or sink rate.

Well, that's enough about my aspirations.

I want to come out of the traps running in 2010.

I will be taking a couple of lessons after the new year starts.

Would appreciate views in how to stay in the groove meantime

What should I focus on - is it loop formation, application of power, timing or what?

I really want to learn the Snake Roll as can do a Single and Double Spey relatively OK - very impressed with the Snake Roll for Sinking Lines etc

Eoin Fairgrieve's videos a big encouragement

Any help/advice appreciated

Holylee
I would get what these days is called a switch rod and go grayling fishing (Tweed& Tay),get your self in tight corners where only a spey type cast will work,keeps me in the groove but I do all my spey casts with a single hander as I fish grayling on tiny streams.Come febuary the muscle memory is still there especially if I have had a afternoon throwing with the big rod!

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hello

work the your gestural distance will come all alone

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A thought?

Depending upon where you're going to practice (river vs pond/casting pool) DON'T have anything that looks like 'fishing gear' in/on/around you. Just the rod, the line and a bit of fluff on the end of the leader.

Someone want's to be a complete twit .... it will start with anything that looks like 'real gear.' If you're going to 'argue,' get a 'ticket,' your best defense is to have the 'officer' confiscate your gear and give you a receipt for what he/she takes. Won't? Tell him/her to call another officer; general public around don't want to get involved.

Yes, I've been down that road (years back up in Washington) but the whole situation was a 'say what?'

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PS: the Judge was not pleased ... 'He's practicing casting with a hunk of yarn on the end of his leader? When you had him reel in, what did you find? A 1" bit of yarn; is that correct? And how do you think he could be fishing out of season with no hook?'

You can guess the rest of the next three'ish minutes as the Judge read him the 'riot act' for stupidity.

Been to court (for any reason) half a dozen times in 67+ years and this was one of the few times I left feeling 'warm and fuzzy.'



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That's funny!

I've been told that you can practice spey cast on stillwaters by rotating in a circle. Is this true?

I'm in the same boat as the O.P. and want to work on my casting but don't have any bigger moving water nearby.
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Different Casts

If you are on still water and the line is down to your left you can do a single spey to get it out to the right. Then a double spey or a snake roll to get it back to the left. You can also switch hands and reverse the process.

The timing will be a little different with no current, but it is good to practice. As Mike said, keep the basics solid and the rest will follow.

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cheers for the advice guys

The story of the courtroom appearance really tickled me

I could imagine Judge Judy dealing with such a case

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Still water will work. Shoot a bit of line into your cast then smoothly strip back in to create a nice slack free line. Leaning in to the rod/line on last couple strips with low rod tip helps.

As for casting on closed waters, I do it [to close not to take advantage] but wonder how things might unfold if seen by LE officer. With todays cellular world good chance a concerned citizen might 'drop a dime' and rightfully so I suppose.

Taken from MI 2009 regs: Unlawful Activities "Fish for any species or possess fishing devices along a stream closed to fishing"

I stick with Fred's above guidelines, no other gear/tackle, especially flies, even in the vehicle. Yarn fluffy only.

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I actually taught fly fishing classes on the water during "closed season" and talked with DFG - They indicated we could even use flies as long as the bend was cut off. This allowed us to practice slack line casting using flies on Hat Creek a couple of weeks prior to the opener and see some nice fish come up and suck in your ..... hookless fly
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Still water will work. Shoot a bit of line into your cast then smoothly strip back in to create a nice slack free line. Leaning in to the rod/line on last couple strips with low rod tip helps.

As for casting on closed waters, I do it [to close not to take advantage] but wonder how things might unfold if seen by LE officer. With todays cellular world good chance a concerned citizen might 'drop a dime' and rightfully so I suppose.

Taken from MI 2009 regs: Unlawful Activities "Fish for any species or possess fishing devices along a stream closed to fishing"

I stick with Fred's above guidelines, no other gear/tackle, especially flies, even in the vehicle. Yarn fluffy only.
Is 99% of the 'game checks' are done by the Oregon State Police; yes, that's correct, not the Woof's. At least these guys/gals (have met the exception, and it was funny as all heck as the other two Officers knew me by sight) know a 'say what??' Sniff, Sniff, what's wrong(right) with this picture?

'New officer' on beach patrol? Who knows? But (three of them coming down the Rogue in a drift boat) pulled in to check (what-ever); young lady who walks up to check my lic/et al is a complete fool and full of herself.

Two guys staying a few yards back at the DB are doing everything they can do to keep from laughing out loud as the three of us know each other from over the past several years.

'May I see your licence Sir?'

'Yes Mam, but may I see your identification first.'

From then on the next 5 minutes got really fun ... almost thought I'd go away in handcuffs. (The other two finally walked up and told her to calm down - and get a life?)




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Thumbs down Here's the 'danger' here Rick.

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I actually taught fly fishing classes on the water during "closed season" and talked with DFG - They indicated we could even use flies as long as the bend was cut off. This allowed us to practice slack line casting using flies on Hat Creek a couple of weeks prior to the opener and see some nice fish come up and suck in your ..... hookless fly
"Hookless fly" or not, that could be construed as 'harassing (sp?) fish; don't go there!!!!

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I actually got a letter form Fish & Game before doing it so i could show to any game warden who came along.

Though if I were normally practicing I would just use yarn without first getting approval
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I practice regularly during the sea trout/salmon close season either by targeting Pike (fresh water or salty), sea trout in the sea (no close season in Denmark on the coast) or cod off the beach. Like ACW suggested try it with a switcher, I find them better for this type of fishing than a full-blown 2hander. It can take a bit of practice setting the anchor in a wave, but I normally walk along the shore-line, with my feet in the water and drop the anchor approximately on the water/sand border. Its great fun and helps you practice placing your anchor. Alternatively try some skagit type casts with a sustained anchor; great for chucking BIG Pike flies out.

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