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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 08-23-2009, 04:42 AM Thread Starter
 
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new to all things spey

HI .
i have read the * im a beginner thread *but i didnt find what i needed .
i have been fly fishing off and on for about 20 years.
all the equiptment i have has been handed down from my mothers father.

i have recently bought the Loop adventure kit .
with Ron thomson WF#7 floating line .
I feel from the lighter shorter trout rods i have been using for ages are easier to cast and fly placement is almost spot on each time and distance isnt a big problem .
here are my latest problems .
i am in Sweden and have started to fly fish in the baltic sea , so hence the loop kit .
its a 9' #7/8
with this loop kit it seems that i am having loads of leader problems and fly size and casting .
the flies that have been recommended to me are large and heavy .
they flap around while false casting, meaning no nice loops !
i have sort of calmed down the problem with using a leader about 1.1/4 length of the rod .
casting .
the rod doesnt seem to be doing its job , but most likely its me not understanding how to actually cast with this line and a foot longer rod and line and flies!?!?

i am fishing pike at the moment , but next month i'll be fishing salmon when they start to come back in to cooler water .

So basically i am insterested in some help with the above .
i tried to make it as short as possible .

now on to the next part
since salmon season is going to start up here i want to pick up a spey rod .
it seems that from where i'll be fishing mostly ill need distance and they techniques of no over head casting . the snap T , double spey and the likes would be perfect to learn for the windy days here on the baltic and no over head casting and it looks i can get the distance i would be needing to catch the fish i am looking for .
any help on what would be great for september / october fishing from the banks or small rowboat on the middle batic sea would be greatly appreciated on what to look for in length of rod , line size flies and casting techniques , leaders etc..


All the best and thanks for your time !
CHeers from Sweden

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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old 08-24-2009, 12:58 AM
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Hey Skargard...

With your 9 7/8 it seems to me that you are hurrying the cast and not letting the rod load. Slow down....let the rod do the work. Even during false casting.

Loop spey rods are well liked by many. Why not look at one of those? I like rods in the 12'6-13 ft range...but fishing from a boat might require a longer rod.

Look at 13 ft - 14 ft.....8 to 9 wts.

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post #3 of 8 (permalink) Old 08-24-2009, 01:48 AM
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Hello,
I think you may have answered your problem. you said "I,m having leader problems". If you are using the same leaders as you use on your lighter trout rod the butt section will be far too light. When casting large heavy flies, you need a leader with a heavy butt section to maintain a smooth,continuous path from line to fly, and also to ensure proper turnover. just a thought

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post #4 of 8 (permalink) Old 08-24-2009, 03:24 AM Thread Starter
 
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HI .
i appreciate the replies .

its been about 8 years since i was fly fishing last . i recently rediscovered the sport and i am very eager to be out on the water again .

i have one bamboo rod 7½ foot #4 that i feel very comfortable with .when i pick it up and and cast and place the fly on the water i feel i can do any wrong . with this new loop set up with much different line / reel / rod+ length / flies / leader i feel like i am 2 days old and trying to run a marathon . its sort of frustrating . i want to drop back to what is comfortable and works for me .

but the problem is the fish arent trout that i am fishing . the pike i have been catching are in the 5+ kilo range and soon ( any day now ) i'll be out for salmon and sea trout . so i need this new set up for what and where i a fishing .
so any more suggestions on casting / leaders / flies for where i'll be fishing i would greatöy appreciate it .
im totally new to fishing these type of fish and also the enviroment .


also please excuse me for not knowing any of the terms or correct terminology . i have been doing this off and on for a while but never really took it very serious and now i am ready to dive into the sport and embrace it .

thanks for all replies.

Cheers
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Hej, I suggest that the best way to jump the curve is to have a couple of lessons with a certified instructor. You have an excellent 2hand casting instructor called Thomas Bergreen living not tooo far away from you, he lives about 60Km from Stockholm. Thomas is not just an FFF-Master caster and FFF-THCI (two hand certified instructor) he is also one of the top Loop 2Hand rod-designers.

Thomas has his own lake and gives instruction to beginners/intermediates/experts alike - if you are interested in having a lesson or two with him, drop me a mail or a PM and I will initiate the contact.

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post #6 of 8 (permalink) Old 08-24-2009, 06:05 PM Thread Starter
 
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hi mate .
hook me up with this contact thomas .i would really apprecite that

tack ska du ha !

MVH
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post #7 of 8 (permalink) Old 08-25-2009, 04:25 AM
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Morning - will do can you PM me your mail address I will then mail Thomas and cc you.

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I have just sent you a PM with my mail address...

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